Wrecked the Pantera (pics)

Dang Robert, breaking an A-arm is a hell of a lot better than breaking a UR-arm! Throttle lift is so intuative for us Americans. I wish all cars were mid-engined so we would know how to drive them properly. It is hard to undo instinct.

I have been lucky or smart enough to only spin the Pantera out on the track and never had any damage. I do now have an understanding of how fast everything happens though. Sorry to hear about your accident, but glad everyone was ok.

PI would have the resorces to handle it. That's a real bummer. Sooo sorry Bro. Tell us a little about your insurance coverage....Bill

Sorry to hear about your misshap Robert. I hate seeing Pantera carnage, especially on Mondays!

Good luck!

-William 3331

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Originally posted by Mark M:
I have been lucky or smart enough to only spin the Pantera out on the track and never had any damage. I do now have an understanding of how fast everything happens though.

You aren't kidding. It seemed like the whole thing happened in two seconds. I don't even remember if I hit the brakes.

Insurance: kept meaning to switch over to agreed upon value insurance, but never had the time...wish I had made the time now. Dave Adler says they do a good job of knowing what they are insuring, and I am paying higher premiums for the Pantera than on the Porsche, so they must have set the value higher. We will see. I think they want PI to help them establish a value as well. That makes sense as PI is familiar with the car. They sold it to the guy I bought it from.

Dave even told me he almost died in that car...I responded "yeah, so did I." He was a passenger on a test drive that didn't go well. He said my car was the last test drive he went on. :-)

Everyone is correct that people are more important than cars. I would feel horrible if I seriously injured someone else. The good news is I suffered through hours of people making fun of me for drinking diet cokes, instead of beer, at the function I was at before this accident. I don't drink and drive, and this reinforced why.

R.

Oh, Robert. I am so sorry this happened. And yes, you don't have to think too hard to imagine how it could've been way, way worse.

Still, a bit of a bother to put it mildly. Glad you're okay, glad the car's in good hands. The rest will get taken care of.

Keep us posted.

Robert!

ACK!

My heart just sinks over the whole situation. The uncontrolled spin, collision and damaging the car are stress enough. I am so thankful neither you or anyone else were injured my friend. That is a ray of good news amongst all the mayhem.

thoughts are with you

-G

Robert, really sorry about what happened. Obviously glad you are unhurt...physically. I really feel for you and hope it turns out well. Good luck!

Those pictures brought tears to my eyes. Glad you're ok Robert. The car can be repaired. Keep us posted on progress.

WOW Robert glad you are ok, but man that sucks what happened to your car.

Jeff

Hey Robert, behind you all the way. Glad you're OK.

Michael

Robert, that's a real bummer but don't fret over the car. Metal can be fixed, flesh and bones another story. When in doubt give it more throttle. Chuck

Robert,

Thank God your ok ... and the car well you'll be in good hands with Jerry. Sorry for your misfortune.

I have spun out twice ..once on the street ...in front of about 5 cars and they came to a halt and watched me ... I put it back in gear and off I went legs shaking .. the other was on the track and it just made a large cloud of smoke ..funny how the ass comes around very fast ...

Ron

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Originally posted by DeLoreans and DeTomasos:
glad you are unhurt...physically.

You are right...my brain keeps going back to it and I get a lot of anxiety. I feel so much safer in the Porsche now that I realize an accident CAN happen to me. Traction control, ABS, airbags all seem more important now.

You all know I will keep you up to date. The important thing will be what the insurance company thinks of PI's estimate to fix the car.

R.

Robert,

I had a similar issue with my Pantera and the insurance co when I bought it and shipped it from Cali to NY. The shipper smashed it. Once you get it to the shop of your choice .. the shop will work it out with the insurance co ... Mine was fixed ..it took a while ... but eventually they paid 11k.

Ron

Robert,
Glad you were not hurt. That is the main thing. From the pics it looks like it needs a fender, door skin and rear qtr. plus the suspension etc.

The decision to repair vs. total will be dependent on what the insurance company uses for the car's value. If they total it someone can and will put your car back on the road. I doubt anyone would part it out.

I have a question about your tires. How old and what brand? I have been told that certain tire compounds get very hard with age. This makes them very slick and it takes very little to cause them to break loose. Not sure if this was your issue for the accident, but it would be educational for me to know about your tires.

Again, glad you are OK and hopefully your insurance company will work things out to your satisfaction.

Take care, and keep us posted.
Jeff

Rob, glad to hear your OK. Hopefully it won't be too long to fix as the anxiety will shift to when you can get back in the seat...

Dude, that really sucks. But you know how much worse it could have been.

It doesn't look that bad. Not even close to a right-off. Just a little time and insurance aggro and it will be back better than before.

And btw, Porsches spin too. And cost a lot more to fix when this happens! Keep us posted.

Robert,

So sad to see what has happened to your car but glad you're not injured. It is very scary how quickly things can change and we have all been either very close to that edge, or like you, just past it.

Good luck with the repairs.

Mark