WTB Carbon fiber hood and decklid

I have a " carbon fiber" front hood for sale. Make me an offer. I believe it is brand new. It came with a car that I bought. Looks like the one from PIM.

Ron

Is this for a 71 or very early 72? The decks are not interchangeable with later cars without significant work.

A shop near LA owned by Lilo Ben Zicron (has/had a Mangusta race car) made a 20 pound rear deck for my early (flat rear deck) 72 and can make more. He uses a material he developed called Barotex (http://www.barotex.com/). Planning at some point to have him make a light weight hood, but plan to have a large vent in it.

Ken

Hello,
I am new to the forum and don't know if my post will come out OK ! The heat does not affect the carbon on a Pantera decklid ( and I knwo what I am talking about, I have used one on Candy , and it never suffered from heat like steel or alloy did...

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Originally posted by PanteraDoug:
Fiberglass over the engine compartment is going to warp all to hell because of the heat. A good example of that is the trunk liner.

If you don't use all of the fasteners then the heat of the engine will warp the fiberglass liner to the point of the the dzus fasteners no longer lining up.

I don't know about the front, but I do know from other vehicles that the fiberglass will warp in the heat of the sun like in Florida or Texas.

Just a consideration before you spend lots of time and money on these.

Welcome Patrick!!

Your post came out just fine.

We welcome you joining our little group and look forward to your future posts.

And perhaps you may share some of your stories and activities so we can gain a better insight into Candy, your Si track car and your other toys?

Larry

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Originally posted by Candy 2862:
Hello,
I am new to the forum and don't know if my post will come out OK ! The heat does not affect the carbon on a Pantera decklid ( and I knwo what I am talking about, I have used one on Candy , and it never suffered from heat like steel or alloy did...

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Originally posted by PanteraDoug:
Fiberglass over the engine compartment is going to warp all to hell because of the heat. A good example of that is the trunk liner.

If you don't use all of the fasteners then the heat of the engine will warp the fiberglass liner to the point of the the dzus fasteners no longer lining up.

I don't know about the front, but I do know from other vehicles that the fiberglass will warp in the heat of the sun like in Florida or Texas.

Just a consideration before you spend lots of time and money on these.

Beat me into submission...beat me to a pulp...teach me a lesson I will NEVER FORGET , BUT post some pictures in doing it! OH and welcome aboard!

Welcome Patrick !
Thanks to share your racing experience with the amazing Candy car !
I have one Decklid from Patrick, Nice part...
i'll tell you if it´ll suffer from heat

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http://www.jpc.se/a/index.php?...tegory_id=6&Itemid=5

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Originally posted by Mikkel:
http://www.jpc.se/a/index.php?...tegory_id=6&Itemid=5

Nice stuff. Shipping to the US is a killer though.

It sounds like this companies heat treat process eliminates the warpage in the future?

I started racing with the Candy car in Europe in 2006 or 2007. Back then , the car was equipped with steel hood and steel decklid. After a race in Spa, I remember clearly to see bubbles in the paint of the decklid, just like an omelette when ready to eat ! Or a cooked steak on a BBQ !! ! Because of the engine and exhaust heat. When it cooled down, the paint went back to its place , and it was OK. It was quite impressive though ! I managed to buy a carbon hood and decklid to save weight, and this phenomenon never occured again, probably because the heat dissipates faster through carbon than steel .I have no other explanation. Since then , I met with the owner of a small workshop who now produces carbon and fiberglass decklids for me at more affordable price than the Swedish factory. But it is not finished for a street car. It is aonly a quest for weight saving. However, it could be modified to be adapted for a street car .( fittings, ...) . When I say carbon, I mean real carbon, not fiberglass covered with a carbon look film. The rear decklid weights a little more than two kilos, while the front one is about 1.3 kilos... Talking about a serious diet compared to steel ! Since then, the car flies . See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs4ytQ6GrYc and enjoy !

I have both on my car which is right now in preparation for paint ... I think Comp 2 and I have compared notes and both agree the decklid for the rear new ...need work for the proper fit ... presently mine is being reworked on both sides because the fit is horrible ... the front hood seems to fit almost perfect ... i didn't by it from a vendor i purchased it thru a CF dealer in Calif.

Where did you get your hood? Do you have an early or late car?
I have a decklid I bought used that fits great, but now I need a hood to match it. I have a '71 and understand the hoods have a different "curve" to them on the early cars.
Thanks,
Mike

All the molds were taken on Candy. Candy is a March 1972, and we've added air exits in the middle of the mold for improved cooling. That won't fit your car , I'm afraid ! Sorry. .

There is a company in Reno, NV called Prototype Concepts that lays up the decklids and hoods for most of the vendors. I have visited in the past and was very impressed by the projects they had going at the time. Maybe worth a call to see if he can do a full CF decklid or hood.

http://www.prototypeconcepts.com/

I believe Wilkinson and Larry Stock use this guy and have their own independent molds he works from.

Julian

Yeap, and shipping will be cheaper too than from Belgium . Just curious about how much they would charge for a fully finished street decklid ( I mean for a street car , not a rough race car :>)

KT, you have to be careful of composite front hoods. The L & N front hood I have was made in two parts and when the inner spider was bonded to the outer skin (or the urethane foam for stiffening was injected in the hollow spider), the curvature changed to more flat. No possible repair that I know of.

I think the price from the PI decklid is verry good, we are able to do those deckilds with honey waves and a cf spreato coat, but not under 1500.- euros . The finish from PI looks like hi Quality , I am sad that there is no Producer here in europe for this Price. ..
Hi Pat ! pls. If possible send me more informations from your decklid, maybe there is a Chance to adapt it, that it works for the street? :-)

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Originally posted by GT4Peter:
I think the price from the PI decklid is verry good, we are able to do those deckilds with honey waves and a cf spreato coat, but not under 1500.- euros . The finish from PI looks like hi Quality , I am sad that there is no Producer here in europe for this Price. ..
Hi Pat ! pls. If possible send me more informations from your decklid, maybe there is a Chance to adapt it, that it works for the street? :-)

Hi Peter,
The only technical difference between our racing fiberglass and carbon hoods and decklid is that there are no fittings for the hinges affixed on it, like the "street version". In racing , they are simply laid flat on the car, and affixed with rubber straps or aluminium pins. Of course, it can be adapted for a street car, but my guys at the workshop are not equipped to do this.
This said, I agree that PI decklids and hoods are really looking great, and come " ready to mount" but when I wanted to order some for my street car last winter, they were out of stock.

I think I saw Hammond drive from LA to Denmark over the polar ice cap in one of those Lamborghini SUV's? Jeremy had chosen to ride on the back of a whale?

I think that was the last episode that Clarkson was on? He told the Producer to shove it after that one?

You could ask them for the route. It probably would be cheaper than shipping it to Europe?