Keep up the good work! Love the start button solution using the wiper and washer switches. Clever!
Keep up the good work! Love the start button solution using the wiper and washer switches. Clever!
Keep up the good work! Love the start button solution using the wiper and washer switches. Clever!
Thx guys
The ignition switch powers up the fuse panel still. I tagged an ign hot there to run to the wiper switch..then to the relay which is running a fused hot lead. The starter uses the "washer" switch as it is a momentary switch...conveniently.
The ignition switch powers up the fuse panel still. I tagged an ign hot there to run to the wiper switch..then to the relay which is running a fused hot lead. The starter uses the "washer" switch as it is a momentary switch...conveniently.
Rob;
Like the sounds. Curious if you've been through the engine and what cam and other components were used?
Like the sounds. Curious if you've been through the engine and what cam and other components were used?
Hi Jag, actually.... haven't had to crack open the drivetrain (yet..). The prev owner had done a bit of engine "warming". Can't take credit for it, nor do I know any of its contents. I can say she leaves twin 315 stripes on the pavement quite nicely.. LOL..
Nice work. Looks like there is a theme to your garage. Black on black!
Whatya mean....I like sports cars in all colors...of black.
Well there is black, then there is EVIL black.
Just looking at that car it's pretty evident it is up to no good? Very stealth. Is it visible to radar?
I don't think that is even paint. That is that radar absorbing coating they used on the B1 bomber.
Just looking at that car it's pretty evident it is up to no good? Very stealth. Is it visible to radar?
I don't think that is even paint. That is that radar absorbing coating they used on the B1 bomber.
quote:Originally posted by Rob Borruso:
Whatya mean....I like sports cars in all colors...of black.
Lol that's exactly what I meant! I have the same problem!
The engine was stroked to a 393. The guy that built it for me was supposed to give me a list of the components, unfortunately he committed suicide before he gave me the specs. When I sold the car the brakes and the clutch went to the floor, how did you fix those?
Yes Jon, as I recall...we suffer the same affliction.
Hi Robert, Thanks for that info... no wonder she runs so strong!
I machined up some spacers for the front hubs, so the wheels pilot to the hub and not the lugs. I didn't feel the need to space the wheel out any (like the rears)...so just made rings which are a snug fit to both mating pieces.
Hi Robert, Thanks for that info... no wonder she runs so strong!
I machined up some spacers for the front hubs, so the wheels pilot to the hub and not the lugs. I didn't feel the need to space the wheel out any (like the rears)...so just made rings which are a snug fit to both mating pieces.
what is your front/rear track with these wheels?
(and tire size)
(and tire size)
Hey JFB, The fronts are 235-40-17, the rears are 285-40-17. I haven't measured the track width..sorry. I can do so if you need it.
Robert, I just recognized I missed a question... regarding the brakes and clutch going to the floor...I haven't done anything other than fill and bleed to be honest.
Started the day off doing some paint details. First I pin striped the wheels
Then I painted the stripe on the fender...
Then I spent the rest of the day/eve tackling the exhaust.
Sounds great..! The wife says the dishes rattle in the cabinets when I pull in the garage... PERFECT..!
Robert, I just recognized I missed a question... regarding the brakes and clutch going to the floor...I haven't done anything other than fill and bleed to be honest.
Started the day off doing some paint details. First I pin striped the wheels
Then I painted the stripe on the fender...
Then I spent the rest of the day/eve tackling the exhaust.
Sounds great..! The wife says the dishes rattle in the cabinets when I pull in the garage... PERFECT..!
Rob,
The hydraulic fluid for the clutch disappears very slowly with no signs of a leak anywhere. It takes several months before it is low. The brakes had a puddle one day under the left rear and I never investigated. The exhaust looks awesome, it can't be as loud as before can it?
By the way we put in a new clutch when the motor was rebuilt. There are about 1,200 miles on it since the rebuild.
The hydraulic fluid for the clutch disappears very slowly with no signs of a leak anywhere. It takes several months before it is low. The brakes had a puddle one day under the left rear and I never investigated. The exhaust looks awesome, it can't be as loud as before can it?
By the way we put in a new clutch when the motor was rebuilt. There are about 1,200 miles on it since the rebuild.
That sounds like a master cylinder with an internal leak. The fluid gets sucked into the intake manifold through the brake booster.
But he said "Clutch".....
I agree that's what it sounds like, though... if it's brakes....
He was having clutch problems too...
quote:The hydraulic fluid for the clutch disappears very slowly with no signs of a leak anywhere
I agree that's what it sounds like, though... if it's brakes....
He was having clutch problems too...
quote:When I sold the car the brakes and the clutch went to the floor, how did you fix those?
Aliens?
I'm going with Aliens. Seems the most logical proposal.
Robert, Have not yet had to add brake fluid. A caliper leak is of course feasible...but I can't confirm, as I pulled the cals apart and cleaned em up. I haven't seen any evidence of leaks yet.
The clutch master was weeping when I picked her up. The trunk area under it was wet with brake fluid. I assumed I would have to rebuild the cylinder..but since I added fluid and bled the air...it hasn't leaked anymore.... magic. or...Aliens... whichever. Honestly, I have rebuilding the cylinder on the list of to dos...just to be certain.
Out in the sun... put about 5 miles on the odo doing laps around my neighborhood on Sunday. I think she's about ready for an extended run out on the roads... Let's see if I can do so w/o getting arrested. (Yep..that would be good.)
Robert, Have not yet had to add brake fluid. A caliper leak is of course feasible...but I can't confirm, as I pulled the cals apart and cleaned em up. I haven't seen any evidence of leaks yet.
The clutch master was weeping when I picked her up. The trunk area under it was wet with brake fluid. I assumed I would have to rebuild the cylinder..but since I added fluid and bled the air...it hasn't leaked anymore.... magic. or...Aliens... whichever. Honestly, I have rebuilding the cylinder on the list of to dos...just to be certain.
Out in the sun... put about 5 miles on the odo doing laps around my neighborhood on Sunday. I think she's about ready for an extended run out on the roads... Let's see if I can do so w/o getting arrested. (Yep..that would be good.)
quote:Originally posted by Rob Borruso:...run out on the roads... w/o getting arrested...
maybe add a tail/brake light kill switch
and a coat of water removable whitewash
I don't think you can "rig for silent run" though
Hey Rob! Did you pick up another Pantera? Looks like another one in the background of this pic...
I thought you sold the 'extra' Pantera about a year ago, or am I mistaken? Your car's looking great by the way!
I thought you sold the 'extra' Pantera about a year ago, or am I mistaken? Your car's looking great by the way!
JFB, I think with this exhaust, silent run is out of the question. But....what I didn't share with you guys is that I glued aluminum foil to the body before I painted it... she's invisible to radar!! Admittedly, I do like the water soluble paint idea though...hmmm... got me thinkin.
Garth, the one in the background is 4042. She's waiting patiently to get rolled back into the shop.
Oh..and thanks. I appreciate it. I love the "bad ass" look that's coming out.
Garth, the one in the background is 4042. She's waiting patiently to get rolled back into the shop.
Oh..and thanks. I appreciate it. I love the "bad ass" look that's coming out.
Rob -
I don't know if it's too late to change your stripe orientation, but I really like the orientation of a more diagonal one (behind the front wheel) that's on F.A.S.T.'s car.....
Check it out. Another option.
I like your stealth body color. That's cool.
Rocky
PS> And I am sure that whether the stripe orientation pleases me is one of the key criteria of this build??
I don't know if it's too late to change your stripe orientation, but I really like the orientation of a more diagonal one (behind the front wheel) that's on F.A.S.T.'s car.....
Check it out. Another option.
I like your stealth body color. That's cool.
Rocky
PS> And I am sure that whether the stripe orientation pleases me is one of the key criteria of this build??
oooh Rocky... I agree that does look cool. It also could have had the Italian flag colors (looks like FAST's "may" be this way...not sure from the little avatar pic. Well... a bit late my friend... so you're just going to have to deal with it.. 
. That's what you get for coming late to the party....
. That's what you get for coming late to the party....
One day I started the car at the local bar and grill and it set off the car alarm in the car next to me, don't worry it's not too loud. You'll do fine.
OK, so 6001 is ready to roll again. Thought I'd snap a few "ready to hit the road" shots...
I'm glad to see the effort on the hood paid off. I'm pleased to see how it looks out in the light.
Now.....it time to wear out some tires.....
I'm glad to see the effort on the hood paid off. I'm pleased to see how it looks out in the light.
Now.....it time to wear out some tires.....
quote:Originally posted by Rob Borruso:
OK, so 6001 is ready to roll again. Thought I'd snap a few "ready to hit the road" shots...
Now.....it time to wear out some tires.....
PURE PORN!
Very stealth. You need a driving suit to match? Maybe with a racing stripe on one sleeve?
I forgot what color you decided on here? Is this a pre-mixed "hot rod black" or did you have it matched to something?
Is that satin or is it flat?
Some are single stage, some use and activator?
I forgot what color you decided on here? Is this a pre-mixed "hot rod black" or did you have it matched to something?
Is that satin or is it flat?
Some are single stage, some use and activator?
I like the steering wheel.
What brand and hub?
Simon
What brand and hub?
Simon
I like the blacked out shifter gate!
Rob; Been following your build since last Oct. when you brought it home. Somewhat curious about the bumpers and stainless trim. Appears all the stainless was "blacked out" from when you got it and the bumper holes filled. Was the stainless originally polished stainless and previous owner "blacked out" the stainless? Was the bumper holes filled with intent of going bumperless or converting to different set?
I do like the stealth look.
I do like the stealth look.
JFB..glad I can be your porn source. I always wanted to be a porn producer.... I always thought that'd be a fun job.
Doug, I like it man! Black suite, black helmet, mirrored visor, red stripe on LH bicep. cool.... The paint actually.. isn't.... I used a epoxy primer/sealer (w/ activator). I'm at work as I type this and don't recall the exact details, but they were discussed a couple of pages back. Honestly, it was a challenge to spray it with a finish that I felt was acceptable to leave "as sprayed". Took a couple of shoots in some areas. I never worried about how it looked before, as I was just going to sand it before shooting color. So, had a bit of a learning curve to deal with. I'll drive it like this for a couple years before I fully disassemble for proper restoration, at which time she will go back to her OE red. But, for now...enjoying the opportunity to express my "artistic freedom".
Simon, the wheel is an aftermarket Nardi Personal. Hub is an ebay piece...nothing special. If desired, I can look up the specifics.
Jag, The trim was blacked out somewhere along the line. I simply re-did it. The stainless looks great under the paint, but I doubt I'll ever go the unpainted route on her. The bumper holes were welded closed when I got her. I am working on getting Euro style bumpers for the front. Wasn't thinking of using rear bumpers, but after installing the exhaust, I think they may be needed to finish the tail properly.
... I am totally digging the stealth look. I've never just done what I wanted with my restorations, always focusing on the most "sellable" approaches or keeping/putting back to stock. So, I'm going to enjoy the hell outa this while it lasts...
Doug, I like it man! Black suite, black helmet, mirrored visor, red stripe on LH bicep. cool....
The paint actually.. isn't.... I used a epoxy primer/sealer (w/ activator). I'm at work as I type this and don't recall the exact details, but they were discussed a couple of pages back. Honestly, it was a challenge to spray it with a finish that I felt was acceptable to leave "as sprayed". Took a couple of shoots in some areas. I never worried about how it looked before, as I was just going to sand it before shooting color. So, had a bit of a learning curve to deal with. I'll drive it like this for a couple years before I fully disassemble for proper restoration, at which time she will go back to her OE red. But, for now...enjoying the opportunity to express my "artistic freedom". Simon, the wheel is an aftermarket Nardi Personal. Hub is an ebay piece...nothing special. If desired, I can look up the specifics.
Jag, The trim was blacked out somewhere along the line. I simply re-did it. The stainless looks great under the paint, but I doubt I'll ever go the unpainted route on her. The bumper holes were welded closed when I got her. I am working on getting Euro style bumpers for the front. Wasn't thinking of using rear bumpers, but after installing the exhaust, I think they may be needed to finish the tail properly.
... I am totally digging the stealth look. I've never just done what I wanted with my restorations, always focusing on the most "sellable" approaches or keeping/putting back to stock. So, I'm going to enjoy the hell outa this while it lasts...
quote:Originally posted by Rob Borruso:
JFB..glad I can be your porn source. I always wanted to be a porn producer.... I always thought that'd be a fun job.
Doug, I like it man! Black suite, black helmet, mirrored visor, red stripe on LH bicep. cool....
Simon, the wheel is an aftermarket Nardi Personal. Hub is an ebay piece...nothing special. If desired, I can look up the specifics.
Jag, The trim was blacked out somewhere along the line. I simply re-did it. The stainless looks great under the paint, but I doubt I'll ever go the unpainted route on her. The bumper holes were welded closed when I got her. I am working on getting Euro style bumpers for the front. Wasn't thinking of using rear bumpers, but after installing the exhaust, I think they may be needed to finish the tail properly.
... I am totally digging the stealth look. I've never just done what I wanted with my restorations, always focusing on the most "sellable" approaches or keeping/putting back to stock. So, I'm going to enjoy the hell outa this while it lasts...
I just get this distinct impression that it is completely invisible to radar? I wonder why?
Don't forget about the aluminum foil mentioned some posts back....
Funny enough, the camera can't focus on the car. I have to lock the focus on some area with sharp edges or on the ground nearby then point at the area to be photod.
I don't think I want to test any theories with the local sheriff though.
Funny enough, the camera can't focus on the car. I have to lock the focus on some area with sharp edges or on the ground nearby then point at the area to be photod.
I don't think I want to test any theories with the local sheriff though.
Looks fantastic Rob. Super smooth and mean.
WOW! That came out wild! I must admit I was skeptical when you started doing the matte primer finish. Seeing it in progress had me wondering what you were thinking - but putting it all together in a hyper clean minimalist look is striking. Great job!! Rod
Thanks gents. 
Update:
I've got about 100 miles on the car now. No real issues to speak of... I need to balance the front wheels, need to switch to a thinner or synthetic lube for the gearbox (get occasional crunches which I didn't get before putting in fresh 80/90 weight), replace factory oil sending unit.... nothing major. Really enjoying it. And...she's faster than stink.. whole lotta fun..!! She'll step out sideways with only modest "go pedal" application, and w/o even playing the clutch. Too cool.
Hey, on the oil topic... I have a mechanical oil pressure gauge hooked up, and running 2k rpms down the road I have 30-40 psi, spikes up as anticipated on higher RPM, however...when at idle (hot) the pressure drops to ~10 psi. Not too crazy about this. The engine is clearly fresh and quite stout, so can't believe it's "just an old engine". Has anyone else experienced and solved such a situation. I'm considering dropping the pan and putting in a fresh HV/HP pump.
Thx
I've got about 100 miles on the car now. No real issues to speak of... I need to balance the front wheels, need to switch to a thinner or synthetic lube for the gearbox (get occasional crunches which I didn't get before putting in fresh 80/90 weight), replace factory oil sending unit.... nothing major. Really enjoying it. And...she's faster than stink..
whole lotta fun..!! She'll step out sideways with only modest "go pedal" application, and w/o even playing the clutch. Too cool.Hey, on the oil topic... I have a mechanical oil pressure gauge hooked up, and running 2k rpms down the road I have 30-40 psi, spikes up as anticipated on higher RPM, however...when at idle (hot) the pressure drops to ~10 psi. Not too crazy about this. The engine is clearly fresh and quite stout, so can't believe it's "just an old engine". Has anyone else experienced and solved such a situation. I'm considering dropping the pan and putting in a fresh HV/HP pump.
Thx
I like more oil pressure than that although 10-15 at idle is adequate. It actually is less stress on the drive pins.
I went with an HV oil pump 80 psi cold. about 45-50 hot.
Since I have remote oil filters and and oil cooler the length of the hoses is a consideration. Better off with a little higher pressure than a little low.
I went with an HV oil pump 80 psi cold. about 45-50 hot.
Since I have remote oil filters and and oil cooler the length of the hoses is a consideration. Better off with a little higher pressure than a little low.
Rob, I suspect a problem. I had an engine that suffered similar low oil pressure. I rebuilt it several times replacing the very low mileage worn crank bearings before discovering the cast crankshaft was cracked and at higher RPMs flexing enough to wipe the bearings. It was a frustrating issue and difficult to resolve because the initial magnaflux of the crank after the first experience didn't show the crack.
Also, if you are running a stout clutch, you are likely to see crank thrust surface wear with that low oil pressure.
If you go back in the engine seriously, there is a Thrust Bearing oiling mod (discussed in a POCA newsletter a couple years back).
I can get you more details if you are interested.
Rocky
I can get you more details if you are interested.
Rocky