car wanted

What about this '73 that PIM have on consignment?

BLack '73

I beleive this car is also on ebay now. It is a really high mileage car, but looks solid and sorted. It does need a lot of cleaning up,though. I understand that all panteras need a little(or a lot) of work, but this car is at the top of my price range which doesn't leave much in the way of fixing it up money(good paint,engine compartment detailing,etc.).Its a solid contender for purchase,and so far it's at the top of my list,but after all these years of waiting I'm trying to hold out for something a little closer to my ideal.Thanks for the info and keep em coming! I feel like a kid in a candy store looking at rows and rows of delicous candy in glass jars, but my grubby little hand holds but one shiny quarter.Which do I choose.........

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It is a really high mileage car, but looks solid and sorted.

Don't let high mileage scare you away. Cars are like airplanes - hangar rot kills them. And most of the stories you read on this forum and the mail list about breakdowns when out for a drive occur to cars that are seldom driven. A car that's driven is often (but not always) a car that tends to be in better working order and better maintained.

When I was looking for a Pantera, I looked at cars ranging from 22,000 original miles up through 85,000 miles. The 85,000 mile car was the all-around best running, driving, handling, and braking car of the bunch, and that's the one I bought! I drove it daily for the first few years and it now has 106,000 miles. And, it's time to freshen the engine and change the clutch.

I searched for a cat for over a year until I found my car. Like garth66, my car was high mileage (101,000) but was by far the best car I looked at. When I was looking it was really a matter of finding the most bang for the buck. Also, don't ever be afraid to make an offer.

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Its a solid contender for purchase,and so far it's at the top of my list,but after all these years of waiting I'm trying to hold out for something a little closer to my ideal.

I don't want to sound negative, but you have self imposed constraints you are dealing with;
1. An L model dash (i.e. '73/74)
2. Color black
3. Max $40K price

If for arguments sake half the Pantera's built were L models (between 73 and '74) that would give you maybe 2,500 or so (god knows how many are actually left today), then how many of those left are currently black and for sale and in the sub $40K range? Do the probablities and I guess that you have maybe 2, max 3 Pantera's out there at any one time that meet your criteria.

Maybe if you were prepared to add a degree of freedom in your search it would be easier e.g. settle for another color with a view to driving it now and painting it later on.

Good luck in the search anyway, it's half the fun.

Bad news ! there was only one sub 40's black and L model....and I bought it !!

Thanks for the input Julian. I understand what your saying,but at this point in my search I need to look for what I really want.For the first time,ownership of a pantera is not a daydream but a certainty,and I want the car I've been daydreaming about. As the search continues I can always adjust my expectations,but till then ............

the helpfull people on this forum, who helped me find mine said ' the right car will talk to you'
and he was right !
And now I have one !

Modok, hold out and buy the best. Would you mind a beautiful black Group4 show car with all the goodies? Will take much more than 40K though

Hey, on-the-juice, how is that blue car of yours? My orange car is now for sale in Germany.

Why is your Hall Pantera coming up for sale???

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Originally posted by DeLoreans and DeTomasos:
Why is your Hall Pantera coming up for sale???

Not my black Hall Supa GT5S, but an incredibly nice black Group 4 that I know of for Modok if he can come up with lots more cash.

#6641 is under-going some winter changes, like new carburation, engine dress up, etc. Will probably be taking it to Pantera Performance to have the floor pans dropped. Don't plan much else for now. Debating whether to go to Vegas with the local club. But I wouldn't drive 6641 as I'd like to get better acquainted with it before a long trip.

I saw your orange car (Does 200) was for sale in Germany. Was that a surprise to you? Still think it would have look mighty fine sitting in my garage, but I understand the power/need of the almighty $$.

Hey "Does 200", whats a lot more cash?

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Originally posted by modok:
Hey "Does 200", whats a lot more cash?

I think he is in the $90K range, but one of the finest I have ever seen. The car probably has double that in the car (which is typical, getting about 1/2 on the sale of a good modification/restoration job). Maybe cash talks though for a lower price, I am not sure. If you like black, and modified Group 4 and don't mind the extra $, then you will be happy. Good modified show cars are in that range, so it depends what you want, essentially you get what you pay for.

Wow. I'm sure the car is worth it,but it's about a light year out of my price range.Thanks for the info. BTW,there is a car on ebay that is listed as a 1973(item#140200223806)vin#5405.It is advertised as a 73 with euro gauges but the photos of the engine compartment look like it has the 80's style fender wells. Anyone have info on this car?

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It is advertised as a 73 with euro gauges but the photos of the engine compartment look like it has the 80's style fender wells.

Strange indeed, I see even the front hood compartment is of a 'squared off' design I know of no other square inner fender car of this age. In looking at the rear photo's in comparison to #9178, the distance between fenders appears narrower. Could this be a car someone has rebuilt with sheet metal?

I'm about as far from an expert you can get, but it looks to me like the VIN was restamped. Doesn't it look like a "5" was stamped over a "9"? Or am I imagining it?

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Originally posted by OnTheJuice:
I'm about as far from an expert you can get, but it looks to me like the VIN was restamped. Doesn't it look like a "5" was stamped over a "9"? Or am I imagining it?

I think what you are seeing is a piece of carpet fuzz hanging down over the 5.

Or could it be 9405, an 87 GTS? The seats and clock are very much GTS-like.