De Tomaso Factory Documents Available

Please show me what you have for Pantera 4580.

Here, all invoices of all pantera sold to usa, but need to look deeper and search for this number

Each invoice have many pantera 10 or 20 cars with chassis/engine number and color.
Theses original factory invoices will be perfect for someone who want to make a certificate for pantera owners

Here

Phillippe

In the automotive sense your business cannot be a registry until a few owners register their cars with you. Registries document the production specifics, and track the ownership of collectible cars. Is that what you want to do? Doing so requires hard work, a spirit of public service, and a long-term commitment to this community of owners. You could describe your business as a budding registry if this is your plan, if not it would be best described as a repository of documents. Perhaps better named the "De Tomaso Repository".

As far as being official, if Santiago or Isabella De Tomaso were to introduce you as representing them, or having their support in your effort, I would honor that for the fact that I respect them. That would be one path towards becoming official; the quick and easy path. It is not enough for somebody to have the same last name as the founder of the company. The Italian phone book is full of people with the last name Ferrari. I have the same last name as the vice president of the united states, but I do not represent him in any capacity.

The other path towards becoming official is by being accepted by a great number of owners as being a valuable part of their community, earning their trust, proving your value to them, exhibiting your commitment to them. Think of the word official as being synonymous with the word accepted. This requires diligence, patience, hard work, and the passing of time. This is how Chuck Melton earned his position as registrar.

To barge into our community like a bull in the china closet and announce yourself as the "official registry" is not how things are done; it is an unreasonable expectation. It lacks respect and humility. It has the appearance of mendacity. It will not win you any support or make you any friends.

I certainly concur with George.

As a suggestion, a great way to get off on the right foot might be to help shed some light on the enigma of the “Pantera Plus” discussions.

If you can provide some insight into the provance of VIN 4829, you could be doing the community a valuable service.

In addition, with more information disclosed, the documents you hold may actually be highly desirable for the owner of the car.... it could be a win-win for both of you.


Just a suggestion for consideration.....

Rocky

How many of you remember hearing how the brilliant folks at Ford headquarters tossed all the Pantera program documents into dumpsters, and even destroyed the body panel press molds? So much for historic documentation of the Ford aspects of the Pantera or accurate replacement panels.

Remember when we all saw the photos of the abandoned DeTomaso factory, with parts, prototypes, papers by the thousands and numerous unknown items strewn hither-yonder? Just like Detroit, Modena trashed irreplaceable Pantera history.

The forum member who started this thread is a European resident who joined this forum in 2004, but who has made less than 200 postings since joining.

He has let us know a friend and he are in possession of multiple DeTomaso factory build sheets and related documents, and that the documents "are available for the owners".

They have created a website and a Facebook presence, but both are very minimal in content. But of course everything has to have a starting point; perhaps more content will be added in the coming months? (Website does have a lot of good photos, though.)

Their website is "RegisterDeTomaso.com" and this thread uses "registry De Tomaso". As English is not their native language, I wonder if the registry/register terms used by them may not accurately convey to native English speakers what they are intending to convey. I do know their English is a lot better than my Italian.

I'm not sure what their business model is regarding the documents they say are "available to owners". Perhaps they are benevolent souls who intend to send, free-of-charge, copies of pertinent factory documentation to owners; more than likely, obtaining copies of documents will involve an exchange of funds for the documents provided. I'm sure the coming weeks will provide some clarity and specifics regarding just what this venture is all about.

In the meantime, perhaps we could ponder just where would someone get such an idea to sell factory documentation of specific cars to their owners?



Larry

I'll bite - what can you offer me for information on #2927?

Please send email to registerdetomaso@gmail.com

If you need infos

Dear All, you miss 2 points

Who wrote the official De Tomaso book with the archives of the factory ?
I was in Modena 6 months opening all the boxes and receive full suport and help by the De Tomaso family, then I have more than anyone the right to transfert my archives to internet

Second point, I do not think that people have read all explanation from facebook page, you should

Last point, it s a lie with the 5 K euro quote story, A LIE
All the factory papers show a GTS with 10 Inch wheels, nothing more and he can buy the docs for 500 Euro, but prefer to believe his story, this is why theses valuables documents are important, as they represent the truth against the fantasy.

Message of 1 September need to be read about the GTS fantasy
https://www.facebook.com/groups/913727162161256/

And the registerdetomaso.com is for race cars only like my official book, anyway, if you dont like it, no stress....no worry...

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Originally posted by Olczyk:
Second point, I do not think that people have read all explanation from facebook page, you should

I would hope you will put the same explaination on webpage as I do not have access to FaceBook

Are you selling the original documents?
Are you going to scan and make information from those documents available.
I think It would be a great lost if the original documents are distrubuted to collections and thus the information contain hoarded away from public

we have bought the complet archives from the factory from 1959 until 2004 who can be available to everyone (just provide your chassis number and we will be able to provide you originals invoices to dealer with chassis number , engine number, reparations, invoices from body shop, homologation papers etc etc

Blueprint + drawings for all the race cars and cars are available

Vallelunga

Mangusta, chassis and engine number

Pantera, chassis and engine number

Deauville, chassis and engine number

Longchamps, chassis and engine number

Maserati Barchetta, chassis and engine number

Guara, chassis and engine number

Bigua

As we bought the complet office archives De Tomaso, we have also invoices from Vignale, Ford, Campana, all the suppliers of the factory

Tomaso never threw anything, so imagine what we found in papers, family trust papers, family real estate papers, dealer contracts, suppliers, disputes, lawyer's letters, Qvale Mangusta business, all projects De Tomaso and Maserati, Benelli, Guzzi.

The Vallelunga 2000 with 2200 cc Turbo engine and 6 speed gearbox
The Maserati prototypes, De Tomaso, the designers who worked for De Tomaso and Maserati

Maserati has developed a 750cc engine for Guzzi

We have in the boxes, the life of the factory De Tomaso and we were very lucky, because the administrator had cleaned the factory and had everything thrown in the trash. It took the relevance of a worker who brought everything home and sold it to us

As an automotive expert who saw the archives would say, he simply tells us.

You are now the guardian of the De Tomaso story

P.S Of course, we dont work for free, like everybody here

My “interest” would be the drawings/blueprints for the Pantera. I would have NO interest in acquiring originals, but only in high resolution electronic copies. Would a catalogue of such be part of your marketing plan?

I feel the dispersal of original drawings to individuals without prior coping and making available to others is a lost to the Marquee.

i have so many...
for what ?, body, interior, engine, suspensions ?

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Originally posted by Olczyk:
i have so many...
for what ?, body, interior, engine, suspensions ?

would that be Original of copy?
will each be offered/sold seperately?

I would think compiling the available blueprint scans into the format that greatly expand the already available parts books would be a start

For example, One blueprint that was recently sold on ebay, its title shown in pic...How much for a high resolution copy of it?