Again a free attack, or is it because I refuse to work for free that you attack me
I m more historian than you, I wrote the official book, which one did you wrote ?
I own many websites where, www.classicscars.com you have access for free to DT archives, how many web sites do you own ?
Your life is so empty, that you want to be involve in mine ?
Try to be hapy with your own life, and dont jealous other
Ho, I forget, I have a files on 4406, if I give it for you and loose money, you will find me sympatic ?
No criticism on my part, why do you feel attacked when we say that you are a salesman? There is no shame in that.
Be relaxed.
Suceptible, don't support any criticism and pretentious lesson giver, a very nice character!
Be relaxed.
Suceptible, don't support any criticism and pretentious lesson giver, a very nice character!
Honestly I don't understand this discussion.
Phillippe has some interesting information about many of our cars, that he is willing to share for a fee.
I think the information is pretty cool, and would add to the value of any DT car out there, and I would even consider it for my cars.
Maybe the pricing is too high, maybe it's too low. Who know's, but if you think it's too much, then don't buy. It's THAT simple.
My only concern is that, since it is the original papers that are sold, the archives will be spilt, and thus, the complete story may be lost.
Phillippe has some interesting information about many of our cars, that he is willing to share for a fee.
I think the information is pretty cool, and would add to the value of any DT car out there, and I would even consider it for my cars.
Maybe the pricing is too high, maybe it's too low. Who know's, but if you think it's too much, then don't buy. It's THAT simple.
My only concern is that, since it is the original papers that are sold, the archives will be spilt, and thus, the complete story may be lost.
quote:Originally posted by Push1267:
Honestly I don't understand this discussion.
Phillippe has some interesting information about many of our cars, that he is willing to share for a fee.
I think the information is pretty cool, and would add to the value of any DT car out there, and I would even consider it for my cars.
Maybe the pricing is too high, maybe it's too low. Who know's, but if you think it's too much, then don't buy. It's THAT simple.
My only concern is that, since it is the original papers that are sold, the archives will be spilt, and thus, the complete story may be lost.
Thank you, story will not be lost as www.registerMangusta.com will be online end of the month, plus, I keep a copy of all of it .
Thank you for your support
You dont answer...
How many books did you wrote on de Tomaso ?
Me I spend 6 month of my life in Modena at the factory...then
How many books did you wrote on de Tomaso ?
Me I spend 6 month of my life in Modena at the factory...then
"Selling" is a more appropriate term than "sharing for a fee".
I have absolutely nothing against the principle, everyone earns his life as he wants, or can.
However, he defends the thesis that the documentation of a car is an essential element of its value at least as important, if not more important, than the real material condition of the car. I know this point of view is shared by some collectors but it's not my case.
This forum is free expression and I have the right to say it without receiving lessons on how to lead my life.
I have absolutely nothing against the principle, everyone earns his life as he wants, or can.
However, he defends the thesis that the documentation of a car is an essential element of its value at least as important, if not more important, than the real material condition of the car. I know this point of view is shared by some collectors but it's not my case.
This forum is free expression and I have the right to say it without receiving lessons on how to lead my life.
quote:Originally posted by René #4406:
"Selling" is a more appropriate term than "sharing for a fee".
I have absolutely nothing against the principle, everyone earns his life as he wants, or can.
However, he defends the thesis that the documentation of a car is an essential element of its value at least as important, if not more important, than the real material condition of the car. I know this point of view is shared by some collectors but it's not my case.
This forum is free expression and I have the right to say it without receiving lessons on how to lead my life.
he defends the thesis that the documentation of a car is an essential element of its value at least as important = YES, I defend this
If you had the Elvis Pantera documented , you will sell it at Hemmings for 65 000 $ or at RM for 1 million
And again The Reaper = Ignorant
You are an ignorant and a coward because it is so easy to attack behind a nickname.
Honest people do not hide, they have the honor to wear their name or your name is horrible and you choose to hide and attack.
Do you have one of Tomaso? if so, but your attitude makes me think you do not have Tomaso and live your life on the internet. Stop hiding, be a man
Be a man and send me your email and your real name, show me instead of hiding like a rat. Because if you showed your true face, you would be nicer
You are an ignorant and a coward because it is so easy to attack behind a nickname.
Honest people do not hide, they have the honor to wear their name or your name is horrible and you choose to hide and attack.
Do you have one of Tomaso? if so, but your attitude makes me think you do not have Tomaso and live your life on the internet. Stop hiding, be a man
Be a man and send me your email and your real name, show me instead of hiding like a rat. Because if you showed your true face, you would be nicer
From the terms of service, a link can be found at the bottom of each page, for this forum:
“Vendors are welcome to use the Community News Forum to inform members about Pantera or De Tomaso specific parts or services available. Vendors may post questions aimed at the general forum membership in Alejandro's Neighborhood Pub forum.”
Larry
“Vendors are welcome to use the Community News Forum to inform members about Pantera or De Tomaso specific parts or services available. Vendors may post questions aimed at the general forum membership in Alejandro's Neighborhood Pub forum.”
Larry
Who will grant, that the offered documents are real. Remembering seeing thousends of blank forms in the abandoned factory. Is there any official statement of Isabella DeTomaso to prove that you are the official beholder of the archiv? And what about the archive in Switzerland and the documents "Silvestro" sold on eBay?
Nobody ask you to buy anythings, nobody...
With all documents beeing show everywhere, here or Facebook, real owners known.
Bye
With all documents beeing show everywhere, here or Facebook, real owners known.
Bye
This didn't answer the question, or??
As my time is precious, I will not respond anymore to the negatives person who have no life.
I prefer to spend my time for real lovers, owners of Pantera who understand my vision, for the other, if you want to attack me, dont do it on internet, ask for a rdv , meet me and attack me in front of me.
And if you dont known me, just buy my de Tomaso book, you will understand my passion for the brand
I prefer to spend my time for real lovers, owners of Pantera who understand my vision, for the other, if you want to attack me, dont do it on internet, ask for a rdv , meet me and attack me in front of me.
And if you dont known me, just buy my de Tomaso book, you will understand my passion for the brand
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quote:Originally posted by Olczyk:
he defends the thesis that the documentation of a car is an essential element of its value at least as important = YES, I defend this
If you had the Elvis Pantera documented , you will sell it at Hemmings for 65 000 $ or at RM for 1 million
This is of course true for the Elvis Pantera and the few dozen others who have a particular story, but for ALL others what is the interest of knowing that they were sold new by Bill's garage to John Smith of a small town in the midle of the Midle West, then resold to his neighbor who sold it himself to the concierge of his cousin who sold it to ?????? to finally land at the dealer to whom I bought it? In what way does this knowledge and the documents proving it bring any added value to the car?
Here, a good message clever, of course, the story of Elvis is more valuable but if your car have the original invoice, original built sheet, it s better for the value of it as perfectly documented.
Always better to buy a car very well documented, if you had the choice, you buy a car that nobody known nothing or a car that you known everythings ?
Always better to buy a car very well documented, if you had the choice, you buy a car that nobody known nothing or a car that you known everythings ?
quote:Originally posted by Olczyk:...
And if you dont known me, just buy my de Tomaso book, you will understand my passion for the brand
I have the book! read every word and studied each photo. Thanks
AND, I would buy a book that was just factory documents.........(hint, if it was complete)
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quote:Originally posted by Olczyk:
Always better to buy a car very well documented, if you had the choice, you buy a car that nobody known nothing or a car that you known everythings ?
Frankly? If they are the same price and in the same condition or with a VERY VERY small difference, the one with the documentation, but I'm really not ready to spend money to know that it is Gino who mounted the right front wheel and Mario the back left brake.
But I belong to this category of people, and I'm not the only one on this forum, which when he buys a vintage car restores it himself from A to Z and so a few months later, I could fill the built sheet myself.
quote:Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:
From the terms of service, a link can be found at the bottom of each page, for this forum:
“Vendors are welcome to use the Community News Forum to inform members about Pantera or De Tomaso specific parts or services available. Vendors may post questions aimed at the general forum membership in Alejandro's Neighborhood Pub forum.”
Larry
I'm the author of that excerpt. Use is one thing, but at some point excessive use becomes abuse of privilege. I am not happy how Phillippe started this under the guise of registrar but as it turns out that was merely a smokescreen for his true intentions to simply sell documents. This whole thing could have been presented in a much more straight forward and honest manner and saved us about 8 pages of bombast and drama. My patience is wearing thin. I think we've read enough, everyone knows what he has for sale, if there's more he hasn't mentioned yet its his own fault, he's had more than enough time to provide full disclosure. Phillippe if you want to continue to reach this market, I think you and I need to discuss a banner ad privately before you post anything else publicly.