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While the suspension is off to the platers, I thought I'd finish up the last of the structural improvements that my Mangusta needed. I have learned a lot about how these cars were constructed and it's apparent that as the years went by DeTomaso recognized that there were a number of improvements that could be made to make the cars better. One area that was in need of help was the rear "H" crossmember that locates the lower control arm. Early cars like mine were not as strong as later cars. So, after Steve brought it to my attention I did some studying and learned how the later cars were built and decided to incorporate this improvement into my car as well. While this was not done exactly as the factory did it I believe it accomplishes the same thing.Mangusta482Mangusta483Mangusta484Mangusta485Mangusta486Mangusta487Mangusta488Mangusta489Mangusta490Mangusta491Mangusta492Mangusta493Mangusta494Mangusta495Mangusta496Mangusta497Mangusta498Mangusta499Mangusta500Mangusta501Mangusta502Mangusta503Mangusta504Mangusta505

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Greg,

Those lower a-arm mods look great!   Those triangle for the rear frame sections look great!!! Those extensions to the rear "H" piece look great!!!! It's all looking REALLY GREAT!!!

What I wanna see, as I missed it in one of your last body posts, is how you're gonna fit that Firebird front grill piece on the car!!! That's gonna look revolutionary!!!   :0 !!!   It's too big for the Vega, so must be for the Goose.......

Got a spare 'Bird grill?????   Goose owner here just started a new project converting a 74ish monster bumper to small.....

Cheers!!!
Steve

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I started working on my suspension this week with the hope of getting it done in time to put this car back on the ground by springtime. This Mangusta has not been on it's wheels since the previous owner bought it over 20 years ago. First I reinforced the front lower control arms more or less the way DeTomaso did on later production cars. There were some additional reinforcements done on these arms by someone else but they looked even sturdier than factory so I left them alone. Then as I was sandblasting the components in preparation for painting I noticed evidence of some kind of plating on the parts so I decided to go that way instead. I am going to have them plated in gold zinc which may not be correct but will provide a nice contrast. Mangusta470Mangusta471Mangusta472Mangusta473Mangusta474Mangusta475Mangusta476Mangusta477Mangusta478Mangusta479Mangusta480Mangusta481underbody1

I got the suspension back from the plater this week. Everything came out great looking but there was a problem with the lower control arms. The arms had too many pinholes and pits in the factory welds and every time they attempted to plate them the cleaning solution that had collected in the pits would drip out and ruin the plating. I have a solution to that problem that I am going to try and I will let everyone know how that comes out.Mangusta506

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...as someone who really values the original look, I see these and think, well, a can of black spray paint is always available. And until then, geez, do they look brilliant

Greg, the best rule to always keep in mind when restoring your car, is just to remember that it is your car...!!  And the care that is going into this car is remarkable...Lee

(ps, I think I remember JW's comment that engine bay in the Goose is somewhat like peeking into a bear cave...I polished the brass water tank because otherwise, over the carpet and under the engine covers, its really pretty dank in there...)

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Lee, I agree. I always try to do my own cars a little differently so they don't look like anyone else's. That having been said, after sandblasting the silver paint from these parts I could see evidence that they had originally been plated. I couldn't tell the color for sure since the parts had been sandblasted previously. Some parts looked like silver plating and some spots looked gold. So I decided to plate them with gold zinc because the several Ferrari Daytonas I've done of the same time period used gold plating (probably cadmium) on various suspension components including the control arms and I thought it was a nice look and these parts will contrast nicely with the aluminum uprights, orange Koni's, and black engine compartment. Here are some pictures of a Daytona suspension to illustrate what I mean.

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HAH! Lee, I was looking at pictures before I read your note....thinking what the heck did someone do to their Goose????   Knock offs????

I didn't like the rear "dungeon" look in the Goose.....don't like it in 'Merican car front bays either...... So this was the reason I did mine in silver (after repairing LH rear shock tower)....so that I could see grease/oil spooge and cracks.....and on one of the first times we took a trip to one of the POCA rallys, we encountered a severe construction pavement transition on the way home.......and when I got home, sure enuf, there was a crack on the RH rear shock tower plain as day in that silver!!      I can't say that it looks bad or good.....but I like it!  "It's my car!"

As far as blacking the suspension etc parts out...... "one or two puddles and it isn't black any longer"!!!!

Cheers!!!
Steve

As far as blacking the suspension etc parts out...... "one or two puddles and it isn't black any longer"!!!!

Steve, I know what you mean--to me, semi-gloss is a color choice, undercoat splatter is a color choice, and bold color means whether the insert in the Nyloc is yellow or ESNA red...And all lost in perspective of the real world. Pretty interesting that Greg find the suspension pieces were actually plated at all...! Really, in a Mangusta the only really daring in the engine bay is when a few have chrome plated the rear cross bar, even a polished ZF doesn't offend anybody. And Greg, for a million things on a Mangusta, the answer on "what is right" is normally a mystery anyways. If you avoid red body color, the chance of you parking next to another Mangusta and looking the same is really low . Having such an early Goose is special in itself.

@leea posted: If you avoid red body color, the chance of you parking next to another Mangusta and looking the same is really low .

@leea as the owner of the red Mangusta that is just down the road from YOUR red Mangusta, I resemble that statement !!!

@Greg Kalmes here is a link to the Johnny Woods restoration, might give you some ideas when you get to the engine bay..

https://www.harlywax.co.uk/De-...on-Johnny-Woods.html

MH

I have painted more cars red than any other color but I decided long ago that my car would get painted something else. Originally the car was silver but to me that says Porsche or Mercedes. I have been experimenting with various colors and have found some that look like what DeTomaso called Rosso Aurora. I still have some time to think about it but this is the way I'm leaning right now.RAmang41

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I am still working on the Mangusta in case anyone was wondering. After getting the suspension plated and cleaning the aluminum uprights I decided I would take a break on the suspension and  tackle the galvanic corrosion in the engine covers. Even though I have been doing this work for almost 45 years I have never needed to do much work with aluminum sheet metal before, other that stripping and refinishing various hoods and deck lids. I have never welded anything but steel. So, after consulting with a welder I know who has an aluminum spool gun but was reluctant to weld such a long repair panel for fear of warping the metal, I decided to do most of the repair with structural adhesive and keep the welding to a minimum. Please, bear with me until I finish these areas because when I am finished these repairs will be as undetectable on the inside as well as the outside. More pictures coming soon. Also, this repair is going to be much stronger than the way the factory had it because there was no way for them to attach the skin to the steel framework after folding over the hem but now the skin is bonded to the steel with the adhesive. This is the same adhesive that Honda says is an acceptable product to use in installing rocker panels on their cars after a collision.Mangusta518Mangusta519Mangusta521Mangusta522Mangusta523Mangusta524Mangusta525Mangusta526Mangusta527Mangusta528Mangusta529Mangusta530Mangusta531Mangusta532Mangusta533Mangusta534Mangusta535Mangusta536Mangusta537Mangusta538Mangusta539Mangusta540Mangusta541Mangusta542

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