panteraHello
I have not posted here since 2008 when my first Pantera was done.
But now i have a new project.
This spring i got a Pantera from Sweden. some body shop had rust repaired and painted it in 1986, since then it has been stored with all parts in boxes. The work they have done on the car is very poor so i have to do it again!

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Saab 900 clutch slave cylinder, I have the same on my other Pantera and it works great!pantera4

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Bondo must be cheap in Sweden Smiler

I have owned a paint and body shop for 25 years now and never seen something like this!!?pantera9

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Another great build in the making!

Keep the pictures coming!

Rocky

PS. I love the rear snow tires.... Are you going to build it into an ice-racer for those frozen lakes of yours?
agree with others, Thanks for sharing the magnificant work you are doing. can't wait to see the finish car.

especially like the real "gills" and air induction
Kim, that is a lot of very nice work, and all in only an hour or so! Very impressed! Big Grin
I try to get a lot done when i have time over from my buisness but it might be a little more than one hourSmiler
Nice work Kim. You are a talented craftsman.

I like the spin tool for the stacks. That would make a great YouTube video watching the tubing role into the stack..
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Here is the new engine fitted Bmw M5 S62B50


Fantastic engine! What a challenge to adapt this high tech engine to the Pantera!
Nice job Kim. After a dozen BMWs owned, it's nice to see the real BMW Motorsport engine in a beautiful body.

Btw, which part of Finland you are building this monster?
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Absolutely oustanding. I'm looking forward to further photos and when the 'beast' growling first time

Here is 2 pic`s of the air grills. it is strange how the rear fender looks wider with the open grills !20160821_103858_[640x480)

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This weekend i have made a new front crossbeam and radiator supports and started on new light buckets.20160904_183918_[500x375)

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This is the old one very poor done and only 0,6mm thick. and no paint or rust protection on the inside!20160903_171347_[500x375)

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I have also worked at the rear wheel wells. and there is same problem,they have tried to repair it.20160521_201057_[640x480)

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Here is rear crossbeam done in 3mm thick! so now it is a good place to lift! later i bolt on a 20mm thick plastic plate!20160812_200432_[450x600)

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now i have got a little done again. now when the winter is coming the body really need to get som epoxi protection and all the structural work is done.
so i first washed away all the residue from the soda blasting and then sand blasted all remaining rust and last a epoxi layer

My spray booth drying robot was good to dry all the water after pressure washing20160908_092812_[500x375)

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And now i have started on the exhaust system. it is going to be 180 degree system in stainless steel.
Here is what i got from the tube bending company.20160907_173438_[375x500)

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I am going to use MaxxEcu engine management system. To use the BMW original system i think is almost impossible. MaxxEcu has also a good system to control the vanos.

Collector with not so nice welds! to get a nice tig weld in stainless need lot of practice and steady hand witch i don't have Frowner20160917_155013_[500x375)

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I have to visit the tube bending company again. Need 4 more 90 degree bends Smiler20160918_184037_[500x375)

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I started to drill 5mm holes in the muffler part of the tube! but my nerves don't hold up for it! so tomorrow i pay a visit to the local laser cutting company to see if they can help.20160918_184019_[500x375)

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Its been some time since last post. i have done the exhaust now. With stamped De Tomaso logo on the muffler Wink

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I think it`s going to look better like this from the side. Now it is same hight as the rocker panel20161001_180650_[500x375)

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I had to make it my self, because the outer ring is attached to the rear hatch. And all the models they are selling is one pice20161008_093431_[500x375)

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Here is a pic of the lamp motor, i used a volvo power window motor. Pretty easy to fit and power full i am going to use same type for windows20161020_131848_[500x375)

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I am going to USA in the end of next week for the Las Vegas Sema Show and to the San Francisco Tesla factory and 3M in Minneapolis. Does some one of you now if there is any Pantera parts vendors at the Sema Show ?
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Does some one of you now if there is any Pantera parts vendors at the Sema Show ?

Unfortunately, there are no Pantera parts vendors at the show.

ZF rebuilder Lloyd Butfoy (RBT Transmissions / High Performance Gear) will have a booth at the show. Booth #24613.

John
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Does some one of you now if there is any Pantera parts vendors at the Sema Show ?

Unfortunately, there are no Pantera parts vendors at the show.

ZF rebuilder Lloyd Butfoy (RBT Transmissions / High Performance Gear) will have a booth at the show. Booth #24613.

John


Ok thanks
If you don't mind a slight detour Larry Stock (Pantera Parts Connection) is in Carson City NV. Some years he attends SEMA, but not with a trade stand.

If you have specific parts needs you want to carry home with you maybe you can have them shipped to a Pantera owner in the Bay area for local pickup?

Julian
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am going to USA in the end of next week for the Las Vegas Sema Show and to the San Francisco Tesla factory

If you're in the San Francisco Bay Area this Thursday, 10/27, come to the Pantera Club of Northern California (PCNC) meeting at 7:00pm at Holder's Country Inn (998 S. De Anza Blvd, San Jose, CA) and visit with other Pantera brethren.
Joules. I have so tight program so a detour would be difficult, But thanks anyway.

Garth. The meeting had been nice ! But i am in San Francisco in the end of my trip, Next Friday.

Thank you all for the tips.

They are special made by image wheels in UK.
I just gave them a design model and then they
made a computer model of it, And it turned out
very nice!

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The back wheels are more concave than front so the lip is almost the same.20161114_184806_[500x375)

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Hi Kim.

Nice Wheels.
What are the dimentions?

Best regards.
Kjeld Pedersen
Denmark

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The back wheels are more concave than front so the lip is almost the same.

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I have been in contact with an car glass manufacturer about one piece side windows for the doors. And i can have them made in 5mm green hardened glass.
But the molds for them is pretty labor intense so the price for just
the glass to my car is very high,
When the molds is made it is cheap to make more of them!

So to the question is some one else interested in them?
I can handle the orders and ship them out to you!
They becomes cheaper the more that is done.

Then i or we can make an tread about how to get them to fit the doors and the parts needed.
I can also make it a kit similar to the system i chose for my car.

I am not in to this to make money, It is just to get use of the expensive molds!
Kim,

Will the larger glass have any impact on the window being openable? I'm confident that your skills would make it easy to resolve, but would those less-adventurous of us have any problems with that swap? Seems like a great way to modernize the appearance.

Mark
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Its been done before. See Rick R's car here.

Reworked Window Glass


Looks like you found the solution. It just requires someone following up on getting the contact info of Rick R's supplier to inquire about making some more for those interested.
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I have been in contact with an car glass manufacturer about one piece side windows for the doors. And i can have them made in 5mm green hardened glass.
But the molds for them is pretty labor intense so the price for just
the glass to my car is very high,
When the molds is made it is cheap to make more of them!

So to the question is some one else interested in them?
I can handle the orders and ship them out to you!
They becomes cheaper the more that is done.

Then i or we can make an tread about how to get them to fit the doors and the parts needed.
I can also make it a kit similar to the system i chose for my car.

I am not in to this to make money, It is just to get use of the expensive molds!


Is this manufacturer guy named Whiantti or something like that?
Dont trust him.

Simon
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Hi Simon - why this concerns ?


Because this guy produced for me the molds for car window's and stole my original windows.

Later he advertised whit those reproduced windows for a cheaper price than I have paid for.

Also I know a case that people have paid for window's but they are never delivered.

Simon

I think it would be best to leave a small triangle i the front for mirror and without it i believe its impossible to get the glass in.

I have been in contact again with the auto glass company about the prices depending on how many i order and they promised to let me know soon!

The company is a very big car glass manufacturer here in Finland they are very professional so no need to worry about that.

Mark i have not looked in to it so much yet but i think it would be a pretty easy project. when you look at the picture you see that the window opening mechanism is becoming almost centered on the new glass! so i see no need to change that.
But then there is the metal strip under the quarter glass that's need some trimming and the front guides. If i do this i take lot of photos and make a tread.

Its so early in this project so i have not thought about every small detail yet.
If someone have any good idea about this let us know

Its always someone that already have invented your good idea Smiler

I tried to contact Rick R but no answer?
I will let you all know when i know some more!20161208_124556_[500x375)

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If De Tomaso had built the car with the same high standards it would have cost $50,000.00 in 1972, without the wheels! A master craftsman and a most impressive job, I salute you.
Awesome work all around. Love the 180 exhaust especially the exhaust opening out of he rear of car.

The rear fender flares are beautiful. You have done real talent there. Any chance you could post a few more photos and information on you build process of the flares/fenders?

It also appears from one of the photos that you may building new front fenders. Any photos of those?

Merry Christmas and once again - great work!

Devin

P.S. Your custom wheels also look great.

Thank you all for the nice comments!
I use english wheel and shrinker-stretcher and the bead roller. With those 3 tools you can make any shape.I make a paper template first. I Tig weld all seams, Mig welds are to hard to process in the English wheel they crack20161226_125400_[500x375)

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Here is the die i use the most in the bead roller. it is possible to make a curved break with it. so i have used it to make the fender edges20161226_125924_[500x375)

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Here is what i start with. It is possible to make it in one pice to, But it take much longer then! with the seam it is faster and i think it stresses the steel less when i don't need to stretch it so much.20161130_201900_[500x375)

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Here it is spot welded. i take it off the car for the final seam weld. and then i grind down the weld and smooth it out in the english wheel20161202_195538_[500x375)

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Now started on the front fenders. I use the steel bar that are curved around the wheel as guide, Its exactly were the fender opening will be. The sheet metal is slightly bigger i trim it off when its done20161226_123644_[500x375)

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I turn the material around the edge just the same way as original when every thing fits and are welded. I make both sides at same time in that way they become identical.

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It's good you have long and cold winters in Finland.
I know that make the right identical curves into the metal is not so easy as it looks.

Is this your bussinus or only a hobby?

Simon
Thank you David .

Simon my business is collision repairs and painting on newer cars for insurance company's!
This is just a hobby and very relaxing when i can create my own form and shape.
When i am doing collision repairs it must look just like from factory if some one see that you have repaired it you have failed Smiler

That is why i will never do an original restoration, That is just like being at work for me Smiler
It is absolutely amazing what you are creates with heart-blood and own individual ideas. And its fantastic that you sharing the details with us. You are an inspiration for us and I really appreciate that you never give up.

Regards
Marc
Kim did you grind the web out, or did you fab the gill?
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Here is 2 pic`s of the air grills. it is strange how the rear fender looks wider with the open grills !
Hi Kjeld i talked to my contact at the glass factory last Thursday and he said that my door glasses should be ready for delivery this week.
I ordered only my glass for now! so i can be shore that they fit before i get them to any one else!
I made a steel model of it at Christmas that i sent to them. So lets see how it works out! I will let you now.

Hi Chris I made the grill new from steel ! I think that is easier than grinding!? and not so weak because the original part is some sort of cast metal and very fragile.

Here i made new smaller frame for windshield20170205_121441_[500x375)

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