Hello,
I want to apply the Ornament, external fuel filler with my 72. It seems that stocks are rare. Does anyone have an idea where to source the part #09038A please?
Additionally, any advice for doing the conversion is appreciated. Thanks
Frank
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LeMans850 did this on his car if I understand your question…. He should pop up soon with a link to his build thread that describes the work he did…
I found the thread Rocky thanks. However he did something completely new on his own. I just want to apply the later model external fuel filler with all original parts. Hope that’s possible as it seems.
I thought one of the challenges was the lack of the "bucket" to mount the filler mouth underneath the gill. That would require some fabrication.
I'm not fully aware of the challenges, as I have an "L" Model, with the stock assembly.
Good luck - keep us posted!
Rocky
They are an extremely rare find now, you can try calling the Pantera vendors and see if they have any used parts, I'd also reach out to Mike Mayberry, it's surprising what he has, but expect to pay close to $1,000 for it, if you can find one. Otherwise it's keep scouring all the forums and FB marketplace and hope one comes up at some point.
I think I have a the 37A lid piece somewhere as I converted to an aero style cap. That maybe another way to go, just cut a hole in your existing gill and mount an aero cap. You'll also need to cut the holes through the rear panel for the hose.
I did see that mounting can #41 out on eBay a few weeks ago. It was listed at $550.
@haydude posted:I did see that mounting can #41 out on eBay a few weeks ago. It was listed at $550.
They were never cheap. I got mine from Wilkinson about 20 years ago and the bucket was something like $125 then.
Its purpose really is to provide a mounting for the twist cap.
As suggested, if you go to an an external cap mounted to the gills then the internal connection is a matter of swinging the adapter on the tank now to point at the gill mounted location, cutting a hole for the hose with a hole saw and finding a fuel hose to fit and clamp them.
I get the part that there is a desire to stay with factory parts on the Pantera but so far to this day, there is not a large contingent of "original 'Concourse' Pantera" owners but more importantly, a big market value for those cars.
That could change but after 50 years there is no noticeable division in Pantera buyers and sellers over those details.
Thanks all for the reply. I take with me: if I find the parts it’s fairly doable.
I did go through the motions about what kind of fuel filler to build, and I wanted to get this project done within a few months… Most parts are unobtainable or were extremely expensive and building would be definitely required to weld the bucket in… My paint is perfect in that area so I did not want to go down that route…
One thing I can tell you is that the grill panel for fuel filler cap doors are different than the grill panel without fuel filler door…
Fuel filler door panels have less ribs on them so you cannot cut a hole in your non-fuel door the panel and put the door on it! It does not match the ribs. And at the same time, left and right would not match then because you have less ribs on one side then on the right side.
12 ribs
14 ribs
(most people probably wouldn’t even notice, but it would bug the shit out of me)
The left engine up cover panel inside has to be modified as well… Quite different cut out and “shroud” welded it on..
minor details… Big impact!
I think the aviation fuel filler caps, sold with the fill neck are the easiest way to move the filling part to the outside of the car.. PI Motorsports sells them too.. but it just was not the style I was going for.
I guess you saw this thread of mine
@FWJ what you are looking for.. scroll all the way down
https://www.patsauto.com/pantera-custom.html
seems they modify your original panel… no normal person would know the difference… (what does that say about me…)
Thanks for the link. This seems to be a decent alternative modifying the existing, Looks good and I will investigate further.
However since I know now the 12 versus the 14 rips, that kills me mentally as well …
