They drive fine :-) I haven't used them under very demanding conditions. About 800 km so far, mostly on highways and on wet and dry roads, but no torrential rain so far. No track work.
Cheers, Tim.
Sounds great. I am looking forward to getting a set and pushing them a bit.
Hi Team.
Might i suggest anyone who is thinking of doing some tyre shopping in the near future, get stuck in and do it now.
The Pirelli P7 range for your cars are incredibley good value. I was amazed when i managed to ge them to market at such a good price. yes i know it amounts to a large credit card bill but for such rare weird obsolete tyres that don't fit anything else the prices are amazingly good. for instance go and look what you will pay for a P-Zero 345/35R15
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Ty...ico/price/345-35-15/
https://www.tirerack.com/tires...o=35&diameter=15
When you go looking for a comparison for the 285/50R15 P7, you can't find one, because nobody else makes it, because no cars fit 285/50-15. The closest you will get is only an Avon Race tyre. which are similarly priced. What they aren't is a incredibly high performance bespoke road tyre made by one of the worlds best tyre manufacturers specially for you!
Anyway. i can wobble on about what good value these tyres are and how incredible it is that i managed to get this tyre made specially for you guy; by Pirelli no less. The fact of the matter is the reason behind this post is to let you know that the price will be going up early next year or before, so grab them while they are such good value.
https://www.longstonetyres.co....-tomaso/pantera.html
I'm afraid price rises are something we are going to have to become accustomed to.
oo these might be of interest to you.
Do you have information on when the next batch of 285/40-15s will be made?
Yes
I have just been told by Pirelli that the 285/40R15 P7 will be with me in the next few days. Mayb even tomorrow.
Thanks Dougal. What is the cost of shipping 2 tires to US - California?
Can you please post a pic straight from the side so we can better judge the looks?. The tire is 2.6% shorter in diameter (26.2" vs 26.9") exposing more of the wheelwell. Is this a problem? I like the colour of the car. Do you have a reference for the paint colour?
Thanks
The garage is too narrow for a good side shot, but I took the car outside briefly yesterday and took some winter pics. My other set of tires are 335/35zr17 and they have the exact diameter as the 285s, so I didn´t have to change anything in regards to ride height. The color is Monza Rosso, the mobile phone seems to pick up all kinds of colors though - sometimes it looks pink or towards orange. It´s really more of a typical Ferrari red (see 2nd pic). 
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Thank you for the info. I still have a few questions if you don`t mind.
1. Where do I find Monza Rosso? What paint company or what contemporary car has this colour?
2. What mufflers have you got?
3. Where are you located? Sweden?
Thank you once again.
@eugenioinnocenti posted:Thank you for the info. I still have a few questions if you don`t mind.
1. Where do I find Monza Rosso? What paint company or what contemporary car has this colour?
2. What mufflers have you got?
3. Where are you located? Sweden?
Thank you once again.
I´ll send you a PM, to keep thread topic on tires
They look great. What i am really looking forward to is the influx of people posting how much nicer the car is to drive now it on proper tyres.
I bet particularly you guys who have taken off tall wheels with modern tyres are in fro a real treat.
I dont suppose there is a chance of getting hold of a period picture of the side wall of one of these tyres. I would like to see what was written on the side wall (yes i am a nerd)
I also beleive in the States you guys had to have a sticker in the window telling what the tyre size was and the tyre pressures. i love stuff like that for this web page.
One option for our cars may soon disappear, Avon Motorsport (now owned by Cooper tires brand) is closing their factory in Melksham, UK at end of 2023 which I believe manufactures the CR6ZZ tires, no confirmation if any of the tires produced in Melksham will be shifted to an alternate site.
Historic racers are already hoarding slick tires to try and counteract the impact.
Can anyone speak about the Vredestein tires?
I recently bought two Pirelli P7 tires for the front in 225 50 15 and I'm surprised to see two speed ratings written on the tires.
A first in large letter 205/50 VR15
and another inscription, smaller 225/50 ZR15 (91Y).
My supplier tells me that these are "Y" but is unable to tell me why there are two contradictory inscriptions.
What do you think about that?
Did Pirelli keep the large lettering for the original look?
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@rene4406 "Did Pirelli keep the large lettering for the original look?"
Yes - here´s a quote from the Longstone website:
"The tyres were originally named 285/50VR15 P7 however they are actually homologated as a 285/50 R15 104Y, as they do actually qualify for the higher Y speed rating. This detail is written on the side wall in less conspicuous smaller writing to keep the tyres looking as they did back in the day."
Hi
It is a bit complex, because to make it more complicated, throughout the original production of the tyre the script on the sidewall would have changed, as wopuld the speed rating. the V speed rating means the tyre is capable of speeds above 149 mph. but since then they have develoiped more speed ratings (including the Y in this case)
the small script on the side needs to be there to make sure these tyres cover the current tyre regulations.
have you fitted them yet? is the handling improved compared to what you had on before?
@judgepaul posted:Can anyone speak about the Vredestein tires?
I don't think they make the right sizes?
we do have the proper Pirelli now so they arent really a consideration.
Vredestein are pretty good, and they were histrorically they were a budget option, but now they seem to be comparatively priced with the top brands so not worth considering.
And they look daft.
No, I haven't fitted them yet, the car isn't running yet and I bought it as a project car, so I won't be able to compare.
I was talking about the 225 front tires, the 285 rear tires are well marked 285/50 ZR15 in big letters and 285/50 ZR 104Y in small letters.
yep there is a lot more side wall to fill on the 285/50R15 P7
The honest answer is i don't really know. It could be down to the different styles of doing it within the production of the P7 which did go on for a good few years. it could be that the 225 is the 1975 script, but your 285/50 is the 1979 script. It would not be completely out of the question for them to do it one size in one country and another in another, or ot could just as easily be down to the heighth of side wall, which is my guess. there is considerably more side wall on the 285.
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Hi
We have just had a small delivery of these
they have been out of stock for a while. We do currrently have the all important 285/50R15 P7, However the 345/35R15 P7 for the rear of the later cars should be with us soon, but the 285/40R15 P7 will be early next year. However i suggest don't faff around. buy what you can when you can, supply is still a little erratic since the pandemic and that Russian idiots performance. By the middle of next year we should have pretty much everything on line, and in stock, but for now batches are small and inconsistent.
this picture gives you a little insight into the glamourous world of classic tyre dealing. That is the lovely Tom unloading the truck. the other pair of legs you can see actually belong to Pirelli's truck driver.
On the right of the truck you can see our badly organised machine shop, where we make bits for our cars.
On the left of the truck you can see our stash of old inner tube boxes we use for rapping up Borrani wheels when they have been fitted and balanced with tyres. Then there is my vintage ramp and my 1924 Delage. The Delage is on the ramp because it is being serviced having driven to Bologna and back (check out our face book https://www.facebook.com/longstonetyres/ we crossed the Alps twice. However) on returning and giving it a service i found one of the rear leaf springs has snapped off its locating pin. not ideal.
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Good to hear. I just bought and installed my 285/40-15's on the fronts and they are really nice. Will need 345's next year. Thanks for what you do for us!
@panterapatt posted:Good to hear. I just bought and installed my 285/40-15's on the fronts and they are really nice. Will need 345's next year. Thanks for what you do for us!
Its a pleasure.
Here is a delivery up date that i have also published in the Pantera chat:
"We will be receiving a new delivery of the 345/35 R15 P7 on the 12 of December.
i beleive we will get the 285/40-15 P7 early January.
However if you need a set, i recomend buying them as soon as you can. i think there will be a big rush on the 345 when they come in as they have been out of stock for a while.
Apologies for all this taking so long. Production has been a nghtmare over the last few years.
Oh yes we still have a few of the 285/50R15 P7 in stock for now, as is the 225/50R15 P7 front."
when i say it is a pleasure. i mean it actually. i do feel very fortunate to be in this business flogging tyres to fellow petrol heads weather it is pre war cars, 2CVs or Pantera. It is so much nicer selling tyres to enthusiasts. I imagine if i was selling van tyres it wouldn't be nearly as much fun.
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Hi
We have got this back in stock as well now.
This was on the rear from i think '72 - '78. It is the genuine Cinturato CN12. Sadly we don't do the front and i just cannot see it happening. I can't think the front is a viable tyre. We do have the rear, which scrapes through as a viable tyre because it also fits Lamborghini Miura SV and Aston Martin Vantage.
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What about 275-55-15?