Tires for OEM 15 inch wheels

Does anyone have an update on Pirelli 345/35-15 production lot in 2014? I called Tire Rack who has 14 in stock, but they are lot code from 2012. I guess if I have to, will buy, but already 2 years old.

Any input would be helpful

thanks Andy

Does anyone have a source for yokohama 285/40-15's made in the last batch?

Is anyone running the Michelin TB15 from Coker tires? Any feedback on wear?

nobody has 15" wheels on a flared car anymore?

just asking

Is anyone running Nitto NT555Rs?

I am considering trying these on the rear (8") with Nitto NT450s on the front(7").

Lots of new, ultra high performance tire options available for a widebody car on 15" wheels.

So nice to be able to pick and choose combinations and have instant availability.

The other thread in this section has info.

LSJ

I have just ordered a pair of Avon CR6ZZ 295/50r15 for my 74L (currently on special from vintagetyres.com) and was wondering if anybody has any suggestions for a V rated 225/50R15 front tire which would work well with the Avons?

I live in the UK so normal air temperature range can be 50-75f (10-25c). I don't tend to drive the car in the wet, though inevitably I will get caught in the rain from time to time. I only use the car for road driving so it will not be tracked.

I was looking at the new Toyo R888R, but not sure if that will be suitable? I also notice Pirelli do the Cinurato P7 classic tire?

Thanks
Stephen

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Originally posted by Stee:
I have just ordered a pair of Avon CR6ZZ 295/50r15 for my 74L (currently on special from vintagetyres.com) and was wondering if anybody has any suggestions for a V rated 225/50R15 front tire which would work well with the Avons?

I live in the UK so normal air temperature range can be 50-75f (10-25c). I don't tend to drive the car in the wet, though inevitably I will get caught in the rain from time to time. I only use the car for road driving so it will not be tracked.

I was looking at the new Toyo R888R, but not sure if that will be suitable? I also notice Pirelli do the Cinurato P7 classic tire?

Thanks
Stephen

Pirelli P7, 225-50-15. The only issue I have found with them is cold weather. The tread compound seems not to be designed to stick well in cold weather. Cold weather defined as being under about 35F.

They really would be a perfect LA tire, but what isn't?

Run them at 35psi. They will work on the 7 or 8" rims. Mine are on 8"s.

They don't take any practice to "learn them" and seem to stay the same on the street or on the track.

The rear tires in that size are going to change the rear bite some in turns. I think a tire that is a little slick in the back is a little better then one that bites too much.

I don't know how that particular tread and compound works though. Sorry.

Race "slicks", by comparison, get their traction from a controlled slide through the turns. Those you need to learn how to use.



You can put the bigger GTS rear anti-sway bar on the car but make sure you take the spring spacers out (if you have a US car). You want to reduce the roll in cornering as much as you can to make the tires work.

Oh, and watch your ground clearance in the front. The car is like a go cart with them on.

Why not 225/65/R15 99V TL Avon CR6 ZZ Compétition:
http://www.oldtimerreifen24.de...earchparam=225+65+15

which have a diameter very close to the original 185/70/15 and would be the same as back?

Agree on the matching Avon CR6ZZ front when possible.

There are many new 15" options available. Enough to make running original wheels almost confusing with choices.

I would also ask Longstone for advice if you are mixing and matching.

I am running the Toyo R888R on the front with P Zero Pirellis on the rear. The combination has been excellent for performance.

LSJ

Thanks everyone for their help so far. A match set would be nice but I have 8" in the front.

Avon do a 225/60R15 but I am not sure if I will have clearance issues at the front? I was also trying to take George's advice on trying to get the same fill of the wheel arches front and back which a 225/50R15 would do better.

I don't mind a mixed set, and I am interested in others members experiences. So thanks for your sharing your experiences of the P7's and the R888R'r.

I will try Longstone for some advice when they open this week.

Thanks
Stephen

OEM 185/70/15 diameter is 25.2"

and 225/60/15 diameter is 25,6"

225/50/15 diameter is only 23,9"

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Originally posted by René #4406:
OEM 185/70/15 diameter is 25.2"

and 225/60/15 diameter is 25,6"

225/50/15 diameter is only 23,9"

The difference is that with the 225/60 if you make a fist and hold it vertically, you can slide it under the lower front radiator support.

With the 50, you have to turn your first vertically to clear it.

Hi

I have to say De Tomaso are possibly one of the trickiest cars to find tyre fitment for.

Pirelli have made quite a few new tyres that might be of interest to you guys https://www.longstonetyres.co....relli-cinturato.html

They are also making a new tyre 285/40R15 Cinturato P7 which i beleive is a tyre that might be of interest to Pantera people. They do currently make a 225/50R15 P7 and a 205/50R15 P7. Any day now i should have a 345/35R15 P7. https://www.longstonetyres.co....li-cinturato/p7.html

I hope these are useful to you.

Hi Dougal,
It is great that there are some quality classic tyres with decent speed ratings coming on to the market for our cars. However, it would be great if you could convince them to make a matching 285/50/15 or 295/50/15 for the 10 inch back wheels, as the 285/40/15s are far too small - they are the front tyres for the wide body cars.
Cheers, Tim.

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Originally posted by Timsteren:
Hi Dougal,
It is great that there are some quality classic tyres with decent speed ratings coming on to the market for our cars. However, it would be great if you could convince them to make a matching 285/50/15 or 295/50/15 for the 10 inch back wheels, as the 285/40/15s are far too small - they are the front tyres for the wide body cars.
Cheers, Tim.

+1.

Yup I need 295-50-15 minimum for the rear with 10x15" wheels. 305's would be perfect though.

Avon currently does make them.

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Originally posted by www.longstone.com:

... I have to say De Tomaso are possibly one of the trickiest cars to find tyre fitment for ...

Dougal

Three tyre "sets" will suffice for all but the last 40 Panteras that were manufactured.

One "set" of tyres the Pantera world needs is 285/40R15 and 345/35R15 for the wide body versions of the Pantera, i.e. the GT5 and GT5-S. There were a small number of Panteras for which these sizes were original equipment, and the Panteras which have been customized as Group 4 race car replicas also need these tires. It appears this set of tyres is now available, which is certainly good news for the owners who need these tires.

Another "set" of tyres the Pantera world needs is 225/50R15 and 285/50R15 for the GTS and Group 3 versions of the Pantera. There are a small number of Panteras for which these sizes were original equipment. It appears the front tyre is already available, but the rear tyre is yet to be made available.

However, the majority of Pantera owners would profit by a "set" composed of 225/55R15 front and 275/55R15 rear. The tyres were the ideal upgrade for Panteras originally equipped with 185/70R15 and 215/70R15 radial tyres, or C60 & H60 Goodyear Arrivas; which is by far the majority of Panteras manufactured. Those cars have 15x7 front wheels, and 15x8 rear wheels. All 5200 Panteras exported to the US were so equipped, the earliest Panteras sold in Europe were also so equipped. Many owners chose to upgrade to 15x10 rear wheels, an option once available via the factory, and via Hall Pantera in the US. That option is still available today via the aftermarket. That set of "55 series" tyres had the proper outside diameters (24.74" front & 26.91" rear). The front tyres were the ideal width for the 15x7 front campy wheels, the rear tyres were rated for 15x8 wheels minimum width to 15x10 wheels maximum width; so they fit the rear wheels no matter which rear wheels the Pantera had been fitted with.

Strange that the front 225/55R15 tyre fell out of availability because it was original equipment on 3 series BMWs (1992 through 1997). BMW owners would certainly be another market for the 225/55R15 tyres. The 275/55VR15 tyres were OEM on the Bentley Turbo R (1985 through 1992).

If you have any "pull" with Pirelli, and could influence the availability of the 285/50R15 tyre for the second set and the "55 series" tyres for the third set, you would have the De Tomaso market cornered. Something to consider anyway.

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Dougal

Three tyre "sets" will suffice for all but the last 40 Panteras that were manufactured.

One "set" of tyres the Pantera world needs is 285/40R15 and 345/35R15 for the wide body versions of the Pantera, i.e. the GT5 and GT5-S. There were a small number of Panteras for which these sizes were original equipment, and the Panteras which have been customized as Group 4 race car replicas also need these tires. It appears this set of tyres is now available, which is certainly good news for the owners who need these tires.

We will get the 345/35R15 Cinturato P7 very soon.
285/40R15 Cinturato P7 will be a few months yet.
They will be listed on here when they come in. https://www.longstonetyres.co....li-cinturato/p7.html
I must say i am a bit releived because i had asked Pirelli to make the 285/40. the wheels are inn motion, then i noticed earlier in this post there is a table that only lists the 285/50. i thought we were making a size nobody wanted.

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Another "set" of tyres the Pantera world needs is 225/50R15 and 285/50R15 for the GTS and Group 3 versions of the Pantera. There are a small number of Panteras for which these sizes were original equipment. It appears the front tyre is already available, but the rear tyre is yet to be made available.

Pirelli do already make a 225/50R15 Cinturato P7 https://www.longstonetyres.co....relli-cinturato.html

My guess is that if we sell the 285/40R15 Cinturato P7. then i can go back to Pirelli and ask for a 285/50R15.

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However, the majority of Pantera owners would profit by a "set" composed of 225/55R15 front and 275/55R15 rear. The tyres were the ideal upgrade for Panteras originally equipped with 185/70R15 and 215/70R15 radial tyres, or C60 & H60 Goodyear Arrivas; which is by far the majority of Panteras manufactured. Those cars have 15x7 front wheels, and 15x8 rear wheels. All 5200 Panteras exported to the US were so equipped, the earliest Panteras sold in Europe were also so equipped. Many owners chose to upgrade to 15x10 rear wheels, an option once available via the factory, and via Hall Pantera in the US. That option is still available today via the aftermarket. That set of "55 series" tyres had the proper outside diameters (24.74" front & 26.91" rear). The front tyres were the ideal width for the 15x7 front campy wheels, the rear tyres were rated for 15x8 wheels minimum width to 15x10 wheels maximum width; so they fit the rear wheels no matter which rear wheels the Pantera had been fitted with.

Flippin heck! Pantera fitment is complicated.

Sadly, although Pirelli have most of sizes you want, we sadly end up with a mixture of tread pattern.

185/70VR15 - easy we have a Cinturato CN36 which is great and would look super cool https://www.longstonetyres.co....nturato-cn36-n4.html

unfortunately they don't make a 215/70VR15 in the CN36 tread pattern, but they do make a 215/60VR15 https://www.longstonetyres.co....pirelli-cn36-n4.html my guess is that will be too small in diameter

However they do make a 215/70VR15 CN12! https://www.longstonetyres.co....-cinturato-cn12.html

I suppose at least they are still the same manufacturer. and they do have high speed rating.

In the bigger sizes; could you get away with fitting a 205/70WR15 Cinturato CN12 on the front? https://www.longstonetyres.co....-cinturato-cn12.html

Because Pirelli do currently make a 255/60VR15 Cinturato CN12 https://www.longstonetyres.co....-cinturato-cn12.html (a 255/60R15 is close to a 275/55R15. The Muira SV fitted 255/60, and so did the Aston Martin Vantage. However because it wasn't available for some time both those cars have had to fit the CR6ZZ 275/55R15, which although it is a great track tyre isn't really ideal for a road car, specially if it doesn't do many miles.

We do sell the CR6ZZ too https://www.longstonetyres.co....s/avon-cr6zz/15.html

All our tyre pages show the dimentyions of the tyres if you want to work stuff out.

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Strange that the front 225/55R15 tyre fell out of availability because it was original equipment on 3 series BMWs for many years. BMW owners would certainly be another market for the 225/55R15 tyres. I have no recollection of what the original application for 275/55R15 tyres had been.

I guess Avon do make a 225/60 https://www.longstonetyres.co....vr15-avon-cr6zz.html

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If you have any "pull" with Pirelli, and could influence the availability of the 285/50R15 tyre for the second set and the "55 series" tyres for the third set, you would have the De Tomaso market cornered. Something to consider anyway.

Maybe.

CN36 - CN12 - P7

I do not understand why ask for 285x50x15, the diameter is 3,1% smaller than the 255x60x15. Why not ask for 295x50x15 or 285x55x15?

What is the maximum width that can be mounted on Campy 8x15?