Hello,
Does a PDF exist of one of the original Mind Train Pantera catalogs?
Perhaps someone has scanned a catalog in the past and posted?
I am interested in anything “Mind Train” if available.
Thaks, Dan
Hello,
Does a PDF exist of one of the original Mind Train Pantera catalogs?
Perhaps someone has scanned a catalog in the past and posted?
I am interested in anything “Mind Train” if available.
Thaks, Dan
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Let's Try This....
I'll do Rocky one better. I actually have a hard cover Mind Train binder. Got a bunch of odds and ends in it, including 8 x 10 pictures.
Hello "Rocky" thats great. Thanks for doing that for me. I am just learning about this "generation" of Pantera "things". Really appreciate it. And "Husker" anything you might have scanned or interesting from Mind Train would be greatly appreciated.
Regards, Dan
To Husker, is this the binder for sale at Motorspot?
Not familiar with Motorspot.
Probably known by some on the forum...Motorspot asking 200 for a complete Mind Train binder. This is probably a good price for someone wanting the catalog as part of a collection. Right now, I am just looking for any information or scans of a similar catalog/binder. Thanks, Dan
Dan,
That looks like mine. I'd have to compare pages. Seems like I have more. I'll scan mine sometime next weekend.
Thanks! I appreciate it. Dan
Interesting, I always wondered where the Arm Rest consol in my car came from. Now I know. Pretty sure the wire wheels I basically gave away were from Mind-Train too.
John
There was someone recently looking for a Mind-Train nerf bar for the front of his car!
If only I had one!
Actually saw one on a car at the Forza event in Monterrey about 5 years ago!
Rocky
Well I have the rear deck luggage rack. Don't know if it was exclusive to Mind Train?
Thanks, looks like the same photos and text as in the Mind Train catalog.
Someone knows all this accessory history ...somewhere
Hi, thanks for these great scans!!
Really wish someone would repop those louvers!
I would say that I have built my own and used two spines instead of one.
I built it so that it could be disassembled or assembled piece by piece. This also permits the replacement of individual parts if needed in the future.
Although I have not heard stories of failure I was concerned with the strength of the initial design and approached the structure differently. So mine is built somewhat like an airplane wing would be assembled, i.e., once assembled it works as an integral unit.
I like the original design in that it is hinged and can be raised for cleaning of the decklid. I have a '73 which came with the "sugar scoop" deck spoiler. If you retain that, it pretty much eliminates the possibility of hinging the assembly.
So mine has the issue of needing a special cleaning method.
I actually spoke to a couple knowledgeable Pantera people and I mentioned, at the time, that mine was easily a $3,500 item. Both thought that it was not overpriced at that.
I would say that even though a talented mechanic could assemble mine, that the final cost would be closer to $5,000 and he would need the car for more then just a few days.
That and considering the liability possible that this thing could fly off or cause aerodynamic changes to the car at high speed (lift) it is really a bad idea to do one for someone else. Second Amendment people can be very prominent in your face if things go a little wrong? Plus no one is going to guaranty satisfaction.
There were a few of the Mind Train units sold so the best course of action at this point is to keep eyes and ears open for one. Considering that Hall offered just about every part in the Mind Train catalog except the louvres, I wonder exactly why?
I suspect though that if you approached someone like the Ring Brothers, if you flashed enough cash at them, it could be done?
I like the look but then again I like the Lamborghini Miura also but I think that you are kind of on your own with this as a project, unfortunately.
One of the fabrication challenges would be that every one of the slats is a different size.
Maybe you could do the profile on the ends, and then just lengthen and thicken the middle of each slat appropriately?
Nowadays with a water jet, or a laser cutter, if you could build one out of cardboard you would have a good template.
Once you know the basic sizes, cutting the slats, profiling the ends and designing the stringers might not be as big of a project.
With a CAD Program, you could copy the profile and cut/paste it onto each one of the individual slats. The two stringers would be identical.
Leave a tab at the bottom of each of the stringers that you could bend over and install a grommet so you don’t tear up your paint on the back deck lid.
You could use quick release pins through the bottom of the grommets into the deck lid to retain it (assuming a hinged design).
You could probably use black powder coated stainless steel hinges to attach the stringers to the slats. Removing the hinge pins, and use some sort of thin, removable sliding pin would facilitate assembly/disassembly.
I do agree a design hinged at the top would be a lot easier to keep clean.
I think Wade (Mk4-4280) had built some as one of his businesses (LoFlyte) back in the day, but I never saw one in the flesh.
Let us know if you get all motivated and do such a project.
Or as Doug suggests, let us know if you found a brand new uninstalled Mind-Train version that somebody has had in their grandfathers garage for 35 years… it has happened!
Rocky
OBTW: There’s a lot of great design information in that Mind-Train catalog if you’re gonna consider this project. No sense in reinventing the wheel.
I doubt if it’s patented or copyrighted, and if it’s published (like in the catalog) they can no longer claim it’s a “trade secret”!
Is there anyone around who actually had the Mind Train lovers installed on their vehicle and can relate the experience? I'm interested in the security of their attachment, vibration at speed, hinged cleanability, etc.
louvers
I kept the set that were on my car when bought it. I don't believe they are Mind Train as they are held down with nuts in each corner. Here are a few pics.
I probably won't put these back on the car and would sell them if someone really wants them. I'm located in AZ.
John
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John -
These might be your Louvers…. Here’s a little info, not much…
https://pantera.infopop.cc/top...ear-deck-lid-louvers
Chuck
Thanks Chuck! I believe that is what I have.
John