Unbelivable crash photos

Looks like I need to create a registry entry before I can see anything. Are these pictures to be found anywhere else?

Those pictures are terrible.

The owner of the vehicle in the discussion mentioned how he was glad that he did not have a 5 point seat belt, because the roof was crushed so badly.

Wow! glad he lived to tell about the accident.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by lastpushbutton:
Wow, I'm not sure if Art Stevens posts here


Yes, Art is a regular here on the boards. Glad he is OK…. Dam Art, looks like a diesel truck ran it over..

Dam Art, looks like a diesel truck ran it over..[/QUOTE]

Yeah Brad, it felt like a diesel truck ran over me. I will try to attach some pictures.

Art

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Art,

That is one of the worst Pantera wrecks I have seen. I know this is a cliché, but the car can be replaced and you can not.

Thankfully the Lord was watching over you.

Jeff

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Originally posted by Pantera 4134:
Art,

That is one of the worst Pantera wrecks I have seen. I know this is a cliché, but the car can be replaced and you can not.

Thankfully the Lord was watching over you.

Jeff

Thank you Jeff,
The guy from the insurance company said it may have been the most damaged car he had ever seen! I thought to myself, whoa, that is all he does is look at wrecked vehicles. I keep counting my lucky stars.

Art

Art,

I'm amazed, but thankful you walked away from that one. Care to elaborate on what happened?

Most unfortunate for the Pantera, but VERY fortunate for Art.
And here are the 'Before' pictures: 1

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I'd like to hear the "what happened" story. Glad to hear he survived! Terrible accident!

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Originally posted by Joules5:
Art,

I'm amazed, but thankful you walked away from that one. Care to elaborate on what happened?

Thanks Julian,
I don't know what happenend. I rung my bell pretty good and I remember virtually nothing. There were apparently no witnesses. I was pretty out of it for a couple of days. I'm just happy to be alive and well. I'll be happier when I find another Pantera!

That's the best way to see it Art, very happy you are still with us.

Oh, my God, what a wreck. The fact that you survived at all is a miracle! You have some very lucky (OK, crashing was not so lucky, but...) stars above looking out for you Art. Terrible loss of a beautiful Pantera, but as all have said, cars can be replaced.

Best of luck recovering and dealing with the insurance and finding a new car.

Mark

Wait a minute here, that isn't the scene of the accident. I was trying to figure out what happened when I reliazed that could not be where it happened. These pictures must have been taken somewhere else.

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Wait a minute here, that isn't the scene of the accident.

Nope, that's just the yard where the wreck was dropped. You can see the rollback in Picture 4.

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Best of luck recovering and dealing with the insurance and finding a new car.
Mark

Thank you Mark,
The battle with the insurance company and search for another Pantera continue.

Art

Art,
the rust on the pics is kinda old, when did the accident occur?

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Originally posted by garth66:

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Wait a minute here, that isn't the scene of the accident.

Nope, that's just the yard where the wreck was dropped. You can see the rollback in Picture 4.

Garth is correct. The pictures of the car are at the towing company's yard. At the end of the accident, the car ended up on its roof. I am told that I was unconscious when I was found and that I eventually pulled myself out of the car thru the windshield. This occurred as the damaged fuel tank was leaking gas. I'm glad I didn't end up as a crispy critter.

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Originally posted by Mic:
Art,
the rust on the pics is kinda old, when did the accident occur?

The accident occurred in May of this year. The car has been outdoors ever since. Perhaps some of what you are seeing is the red dirt that is inside and all over the car. I think I was out there plowing the back forty.

OMG!! I am glad you are OK Art looks like the worst wreck I have ever seen. I am sorry about the loss of the car too, she looks like she was something else. Speedy recovery to you.

Holy cow! Glad you are OK. When you say you don’t know what happened are you saying that when you came home from the hospital you were surprised to see that your Pantera was not in the garage or do you know where you were leading up to the crash?

Mike

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Originally posted by Pantera 1887:
Holy cow! Glad you are OK. When you say you don’t know what happened are you saying that when you came home from the hospital you were surprised to see that your Pantera was not in the garage or do you know where you were leading up to the crash?

Mike

Thanks Mike,


My head was pretty clear by the time I left the hospital, four and a half days after the accident. When I got out of the hospital, I went directly to the tow yard to see the car. Based on the fact that I walked out of the hospital after a few days, I thought to myself, how bad can the car be? I thought that perhaps it could be repaired? I was blown away when I saw it. I was happy and more than a little surprised to be alive! About two weeks after the accident, I went to retrieve the car. Prior to that trip, I could not remember anything that had happened in the last three hours before the accident. When I returned to the scene, bits and pieces of my memory returned. I have never been able to remember the last few minutes leading up to the accident.

Art - glad you survived, thanks to Garth's pictures we can all see the car for what it was and compare - it was beautiful. To add another line of thought to this thread - How strong is the roof - you obviously rolled the car (maybe end over end, who knows). Do you think we should all weld in a roll bar to be safe, that was my first thought after seeing your crash pics, then again you might have smacked your noggin on a roll bar and done worse. Food for thought anyway. It is a miracle you survived.

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Originally posted by 72red:
Art - glad you survived, thanks to Garth's pictures we can all see the car for what it was and compare - it was beautiful. To add another line of thought to this thread - How strong is the roof - you obviously rolled the car (maybe end over end, who knows). Do you think we should all weld in a roll bar to be safe, that was my first thought after seeing your crash pics, then again you might have smacked your noggin on a roll bar and done worse. Food for thought anyway. It is a miracle you survived.

Thanks Red,
I think a roll bar is probably a good idea provided it is well padded like you say. I think racing harnesses without a roll bar could be a bad idea. Had I been wearing a racing harness, I don't think I would have been so fortunate. I think my 3point seat belt/shoulder strap allowed my torso to go to the relatively unaffected passenger side. All that being said, I don't feel the need to rush out and buy a roll bar for my next Pantera. I don't intend to turn the next car over, but then again, I wasn't planning to turn the last one over.

Wow.

Art, my heartfelt condolences and wishes for a speedy full recovery from any injuries you sustained. It looks like things could have turned out a LOT worse.

I guess not remembering the specifics has its good and bad points: good, not feeling apprehensive in similar situations later on; bad, not knowing exactly what not to do next time.

As some months have now elapsed, you must already be moving on to the stage where you can be philosophical about it.

Good luck in your search for another car. From the looks of the before pictures, you know how to care for them, and definitely deserve another good one. Mistakes happen, but thankfully only seldom.

Best regards,

Art am glad you are ok, I wrecked a 87 LX Mustang almost twenty years ago. I STILL cant remember the 20 some hours just before to after the accident. Then I was in the hospital almost two weeks, then off work for three months after that.
You are fortunate to be OK now, and we are glad you are still here to tell us!!
Jeff

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Originally posted by JeffS:
Art am glad you are ok, I wrecked a 87 LX Mustang almost twenty years ago. I STILL cant remember the 20 some hours just before to after the accident.

Same thing happened to me. Motorcycle accident. I lost memory of almost an entire day, including the accident.

I thought I was unconscious the whole time, but when I called the businesses around the accident to try and figure out where my bike was, I talked to people that said things like "don't you remember me? I am the guy that helped you stand your motorcycle up. We talked for several minutes until the ambulance showed up." I never got the memory back.

Thank goodness you are OK. Sad to see another Pantera disappear. Especially such a beautiful one.

Did you have an "agreed upon price" policy?

R.

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Originally posted by eclectechie:
Wow.

Best regards,

Thanks Marcus,

It is frustrating not knowing what happened.


Art

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Originally posted by JeffS:
Art am glad you are ok, I wrecked a 87 LX Mustang almost twenty years ago. I STILL cant remember the 20 some hours just before to after the accident. Then I was in the hospital almost two weeks, then off work for three months after that.
You are fortunate to be OK now, and we are glad you are still here to tell us!!
Jeff

Yikes!
I'm glad you are here as well Jeff.

Thanks,
Art

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Originally posted by RobertVegas:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JeffS:
Art am glad you are ok, I wrecked a 87 LX Mustang almost twenty years ago. I STILL cant remember the 20 some hours just before to after the accident.

Same thing happened to me. Motorcycle accident. I lost memory of almost an entire day, including the accident.

Hmmm, there seems to be a common thread here. Someone was telling me that Richard Petty has no recollection of a major accident he had on the track. So this losing the memory thing does not seem to be uncommon under the circumstances.
I unfortunately did not have an agreed value policy. I am currently doing battle with my insurance company which involves appraisers and an umpire.

Thanks Robert,

Art

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Originally posted by Astephens:
I unfortunately did not have an agreed value policy. I am currently doing battle with my insurance company which involves appraisers and an umpire.

Art, in seeing the "before" pix of your cat, I find it hard to believe that any reputable appraiser would value your cat as low as you mentioned. In fact, I would find it hard to believe if it was appraised for anything less than $60k. The importance of being the last Pre-L model car and crossing the stage at Concorso Italiano are huge points to stress relative to your car's importance and, hence, value. Things like a weak US dollar, a stalled economy and an above average number of Panteras currently for sale, IMO, should not impact the appraised value of your cat.

I wish you the best in your battle. Please keep us posted ...

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Originally posted by EA #3528:

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Originally posted by Astephens:
I unfortunately did not have an agreed value policy. I am currently doing battle with my insurance company which involves appraisers and an umpire.

Art, in seeing the "before" pix of your cat, I find it hard to believe that any reputable appraiser would value your cat as low as you mentioned. In fact, I would find it hard to believe if it was appraised for anything less than $60k. The importance of being the last Pre-L model car and crossing the stage at Concorso Italiano are huge points to stress relative to your car's importance and, hence, value. Things like a weak US dollar, a stalled economy and an above average number of Panteras currently for sale, IMO, should not impact the appraised value of your cat.

I wish you the best in your battle. Please keep us posted ...

When my insurance company, (Wawanesa), told me they would give me 35K for my car, I used words like absurd, rediculous and insulting before I hung up. I think I have the right guy working for me, so hopefully I will get a fair amount.

Thanks,
Art

I like to consider myself pretty good at body work and fixing some pretty big damage, but DAAAMN! I cant come close to fixing that one.

I am glad you are ok and after an accident like that one, no one can say that a Pantera is not a safe car. That is some serious damage for any car. Be glad you were not in a Plastic Pig. In a wreck like that, one of those plastic cars would of completely came apart.

Good luck with insurance and finding a worthy replacement. I sure hope I never find out if my insurance will pay off.

Hey Art,

I'm not in the insurance business, but I'm PRETTY DARN SURE that car is totalled. Good thing you're not. Wow.

Your before pictures are amazing. A clean, hyper detailed car, showing some restraint from going over the top. (Sorry, after your roll, a bad choice of words.)

Glad to hear your spirits are up, which is vital. Probably have a new 'view' of life now I'd suspect. Keep recovering, thinking good thoughts... and posting!

Hmmm, there seems to be a common thread here. Someone was telling me that Richard Petty has no recollection of a major accident he had on the track. So this losing the memory thing does not seem to be uncommon under the circumstances.
I unfortunately did not have an agreed value policy. I am currently doing battle with my insurance company which involves appraisers and an umpire.

Thanks Robert,

Art[/QUOTE]


I bet what happened is you guys collided with a UFO. I heard that they erase your memmory like that. Must be so you can testify against them in court.

I bet what happened is you guys collided with a UFO. I heard that they erase your memmory like that. Must be so you can't testify against them in court.[/QUOTE]

I knew there had to be a logical explanation!

Art

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I bet what happened is you guys collided with a UFO. I heard that they erase your memmory like that. Must be so you can testify against them in court.

MMMMMM?????
I had heard they do experiments on humans, they must have forgot to fix me before letting me go!!!!
Jeff

it is MIB doin' the 'flashy thing'.