Thought I would get my build thread going while I wait for the car to turn up.

I bought the car from BHCC and they say the car has been in storage for a long time. I'm planning a full rebuild and RHD conversion, will respray the car the original white colour.

If anyone has seen this car or knows more about it I would love to hear about it.

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3643 has landed in Australia just waiting for Customs clearances now.
I just found out the weird front spoiler is a Gran Turismo item. I wondered of its origin, thanks ProvaMo. I plan to remove it though is there anyone interested in it?
Picked up 3643 today......its been on a long journey. Last leg was a 450km tow home.
Now to test a few things then stip down. Hopefully that ZF is ok

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Cheers, will post up the whole process. Trying to decide about going back to standard flares or Group 5 Flares? Im liking standard but a lot of the body has been cut away....

Also motor is seized, looks like condensation has got into the engine via the intake. But engine number matches body so happy in that regard.
Was the true condition of the car disclosed to you by BHCC?
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Cheers, will post up the whole process. Trying to decide about going back to standard flares or Group 5 Flares? Im liking standard but a lot of the body has been cut away....

Also motor is seized, looks like condensation has got into the engine via the intake. But engine number matches body so happy in that regard.


Another Pantera owner quite near to me has changed his car from left to right hand drive.

He had the dash made by an EX TVR man from the Blackpool factory and the quality is A1, he does of course have the mould, if you would like contact details let me know.
Peter with 3840 in Manchester England.

Original cars are the type I prefer, but its your motor car.
Peter Hi it's Sharkey. Please PM your email address & fee so I can paypal you $ to inspect the GT5-S.

I don't know how to send you a PM. I went to the members section, could not find first or last name.
Thkx
Started on the flares today as you know the flares on my car never looked right. Today I chipped away the fibreglass and found that a previous Owner has sliced the guards bent them out to make a flare and fibreglassed over them. The fibreglass came off pretty easy. Plenty of metal to mess around with...

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Started on the flares today as you know the flares on my car never looked right. Today I chipped away the fibreglass and found that a previous Owner has sliced the guards bent them out to make a flare and fibreglassed over them. The fibreglass came off pretty easy. Plenty of metal to mess around with...


From the way the flares looked, I had my suspicions this is what they had done.
Not looking good.
To much Bondo!

Confused

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Originally posted by AlbanyGT40:
Started on the flares today as you know the flares on my car never looked right. Today I chipped away the fibreglass and found that a previous Owner has sliced the guards bent them out to make a flare and fibreglassed over them. The fibreglass came off pretty easy. Plenty of metal to mess around with...


From the way the flares looked, I had my suspicions this is what they had done.
ZF looks to be ok,oil a little black but no glitter in it.Selects all gears and rolls over nice. Need to open it up and have a look inside.

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Safety wire the ring gear while you are in there.
Check on both sides, especially behind the gas tank.

There is a "cavity" that runs forward if the bulkhead, above the lower sills. This area can collect fine sand and dust, which can be a rust-prone area. I vacuumed mine out very well, and put a bunch of bedliner-type stuff in there.

It probably doesn't help if corrosion is there already, but you will never have better access than now.....

Rocky
yep all looks good in the side pods. Got a light in each side and all looks good. Lots of dead spiders, grim and plant material. Planning to vac out and spray a fish oil product in there.
Still stripping the car. Wiring harness is completely out, most of interior gone. Doors stripped down and removed, very happy most of the Stainless trim came off no issue except for left roof channel stainless trim which someone had siliconed on....took hours to get it off without destroying it. Next step is onto hoist to strip suspension and mount to rotisserie....

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Peter Hi it's Sharkey. Please PM your email address & fee so I can paypal you $ to inspect the GT5-S.

I don't know how to send you a PM. I went to the members section, could not find first or last name.
Thkx


No need Sharkey, thats what DeTomaso friends are for.
Thanks to Tony for supplying me a RHD dash.Fits perfect, also got a set of steel Grp4 flares but not sure if I'm up to fitting them. Good thing is the rears completely cover the old body flare mods.

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Now that RHD conversion is done. It's time to fit the flares, still yet to secure a set of Grp 4 flares. I made some spacers to set the car at desired ride height. I also fitted new suspension arm bushes and aligned car. Now the wheels are in the correct position I can centre the flares over the wheels.

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Chassis looks amazing. That is excellent. Typically, I see crushed box sections from aggressive jacking. As pointed out already, nice and rust free.
Overall the car has been great value for what I paid. I think the dodgy custom flares scared off a lot of buyers and the weird front spoiler. Once all those items were removed the car itself is in very good condition. Long way to go though.
Finally got the car fully blasted. The body is an excellent condition, some minor surface rust but no rust holes. Blaster tells me there was no undercoat on the car.

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Well done! Thank you for posting the detailed photos.
What's the box to the right in the front compartment? Looks unfamiliar to me.
Its the RHD conversion pedal box, similar to the LHD side box. I have converted the car to RHD but left all the LHD brackets in place so the car canrevert if needed.
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Its the RHD conversion pedal box, similar to the LHD side box. I have converted the car to RHD but left all the LHD brackets in place so the car canrevert if needed.

Thanks. Sorry, I scrolled back now and found you had explained that in detail. Nice!
Your RH side pedal box appears a bit lower than the left and the face is more towards the front of the car.
Is this typical of RHD cars?
That car with the RHD pedal box seems like a perfect candidate for a dropped battery in the front trunk. Hope you're not planning on putting it in back near the right side headers- it's hot and pretty inaccessible back there if you ever need to service it or the electrical panel on the firewall, and about the last thing a Pantera needs is more weight in the rear...
Yeah the RHD drive box is suited to the custom fabricated pedal plate and pedals. It’s a full custom job and not intended to mirror the left side. Im not going to run a booster at this stage. My GT40 had non boosted brakes and I loved it.

The battery is going in the LHD pedal box recess. I will make a cover for it. I will use a new small Lithium battery. will be safely tucked away and look clean. I want to be able to put a bag in the front section tray so no dropped battery.
Hi Dave, great to see that you are really cracking on with your car, everything you are doing looks brilliant and what a great idea with the battery, as you know I am also converting but not as far on as you now! I will send some pics.
All the best Richard.
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The battery is going in the LHD pedal box recess. I will make a cover for it. I will use a new small Lithium battery. will be safely tucked away and look clean. I want to be able to put a bag in the front section tray so no dropped battery.


That was my thought when I saw the photos, ideal spot for a small high capacity battery.

For nor'easter; it is common to space the pedals forward a bit for us tall guys, I have a 1" pedal spacer on my car. 1.5" is about the max you can get before the booster interferes with the hood.
1972 #3468.

You have no idea how inspirational your progress posts are. My car has been off the road since 1991 and I dream of the car running and driving on the SO Cal roads again.
Just need to find a reputable, dependable shop in So Cal that knows Panteras.
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1972 #3468.


Just need to find a reputable, dependable shop in So Cal that knows Panteras.


So Cal is the the epicenter of Pantera ownership. Have you reached out to the various clubs/owners to get recommendations? I'm sure there are several to chose from.
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1972 #3468.

You have no idea how inspirational your progress posts are. My car has been off the road since 1991 and I dream of the car running and driving on the SO Cal roads again.
Just need to find a reputable, dependable shop in So Cal that knows Panteras.


Contact Tommy Hodges (Extreme Pantera) 1-562-301-0583 Tommy is in SoCal, Very Knowledgeable!

Major panel work done on now, Painters turn to finish off. Was very nice seeing the car all nice and straight. Turns 3643 is a very solid car with very little rust.  

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Besides the dropped battery, RHD cars would seem to need a flat firewall so the right seat can go back far enough to be comfortable driving. You can easily do this by reversing the motor mounts side to side and bending a shallow 'S' in the ZF tabs. This moves the whole engine back about 0.8". Stock wiring, plumbing and the gearshift rod all have this much adjustment without complication. Then you can change the way a stock alternator in a stock bracket mounts and drive it from the unused inner sheave on the A/C pulley, which removes another 1" of engine length and makes only the water pump & pulley the source of any remaining protrusion.  Cut that part of the steel firewall door away that's no longer needed, redo the bubble upholstery and most people in the right seat will NOT be able to reach the front firewall with their toes.

Yeah planning on re arranging the pulley drive set up.  An Electric water pump (davies Craigs) seperate from the motor free's up space and worked well on my GT40, then I just fit a blanking plate to the timing cover, I basically got a water pump housing and pressed the bearing shaft out and welded a blanking plate on the end, that way Cooling hoses stays the same, the Water pump mounts up front. Alt and A/C compressor will be remounted and I will run the smallest AC compressor i can find.  Learnt a lot from my GT40 when it comes to packaging these things.  

albanygt40 posted:
3643 has landed in Australia just waiting for Customs clearances now.
I just found out the weird front spoiler is a Gran Turismo item. I wondered of its origin, thanks ProvaMo. I plan to remove it though is there anyone interested in it?

If you could post some clear pictures of the spoiler in good light and preferably still attached to the car, I might be interested. Thanks. Mike

Progress on the Pantera, been awhile as paint is taking its time.  Hopefully have a painted car end of month. Color is N6 Lightning blue.  

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I am an ardent admirer of dark blue. I can't wait to see what the finished coach looks like.

What color have you picked for the interior?

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I was very close to painting mine white as thats its factory colour.  Wish mine was an interesting colour like lime green then it would of got factory paint.

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