great idea, nice work
NICE WORK!...Are you going to weld CO2 bungs for tuning purposes?...Mark
quote:Originally posted by 1Rocketship:
NICE WORK!...Are you going to weld CO2 bungs for tuning purposes?...Mark
YES SENSORS WILL BE ADDED.
I am glad one of us is making progress. I have only managed to make my project larger and larger. Keep up the good work.
quote:Originally posted by PanteraTurbo:
I am glad one of us is making progress. I have only managed to make my project larger and larger. Keep up the good work.
I hear ya. Keep getting a bit side tracked myself.
Nice but I hate infinitely adjustable linkages. You are going to be there FOREVER!
quote:Originally posted by PanteraDoug:
Nice but I hate infinitely adjustable linkages. You are going to be there FOREVER!
I agree that's why I'm having someone set it all up and tune the whole thing on a dyno.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phoa9QrPwas
Who are you going to use to set it up and do the dyno tuning? If Borla recommended someone I'm curious to hear who it was.
It's very nice the way they've eliminated the "above manifold" vacuum lines and MAP sensor (and IAC) plenum by casting a plenum into the underside of the manifold.
It's very nice the way they've eliminated the "above manifold" vacuum lines and MAP sensor (and IAC) plenum by casting a plenum into the underside of the manifold.
quote:Originally posted by David_Nunn:
Who are you going to use to set it up and do the dyno tuning? If Borla recommended someone I'm curious to hear who it was.
It's very nice the way they've eliminated the "above manifold" vacuum lines and MAP sensor (and IAC) plenum by casting a plenum into the underside of the manifold.
Borla recommends MMR in SoCal
http://modularmotorsportsracing.com/
You might want to talk to Autotrend EFI in NorCal (http://www.autotrendefi.com/). They're installing, setting-up and dyno tuning that exact manifold right now, on a Coyote, in a Cobra. Autotrend is an EFI set-up and tuning shop that specializes in IR intakes and custom EFI wiring harnesses.
What are you using for an ECU? The Holley Dominator seems to be the current "state-of-the-art" for V8 IR applications.
What are you using for an ECU? The Holley Dominator seems to be the current "state-of-the-art" for V8 IR applications.
YES The Holley ECU.
Thanks for the info I'll check them out.
Thanks for the info I'll check them out.
That induction system looks awesome.
WOW.
Rocky
WOW.
Rocky
Last I checked the Holley ecu will require phaser lockouts. I figured I would let you know in case you didn't. Link and AEM both offer ecus that will keep the cam phasing functional. If you are good with no cam control the Holley ecu is awesome.
Where at in NW Agustaboy? Nice job on the mod motor swap.
Blaine,
Holley says they are in the process of developing VCT outputs for the Dominator. They don't have an ETA though.
Holley says they are in the process of developing VCT outputs for the Dominator. They don't have an ETA though.
quote:Originally posted by Hustler:
Where at in NW Agustaboy? Nice job on the mod motor swap.
I'm in the Sun Valley Idaho area.
quote:Originally posted by David_Nunn:
Blaine,
Holley says they are in the process of developing VCT outputs for the Dominator. They don't have an ETA though.
Yes Holley is really making headway in this area.
I'm going to lock the CAMs for now.
For another $1,000 They said I could have Traction Control
Good to know they plan to make it happen because they are a good ecu and have a massive amount of expandability.
Guys,
I am probably going the Dominator route as my buddy has years of experience with it and I am not going 5.0L.
However, just last night I read an article of a standalone ECU for the Coyote by AEM. This is in the May 2015 issue of Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords page 49 and goes on for 7 pages.
Seems capable being able to control the Ti-VCT, DBW TB, 200 Mhz processor, data logging at 1 KHz, think they said traction control, etc.
It uses the controls pack wiring harness for the interface.
No idea of cost, but it might be something interesting to consider.
I am probably going the Dominator route as my buddy has years of experience with it and I am not going 5.0L.
However, just last night I read an article of a standalone ECU for the Coyote by AEM. This is in the May 2015 issue of Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords page 49 and goes on for 7 pages.
Seems capable being able to control the Ti-VCT, DBW TB, 200 Mhz processor, data logging at 1 KHz, think they said traction control, etc.
It uses the controls pack wiring harness for the interface.
No idea of cost, but it might be something interesting to consider.
The AEM is a good choice. It has a great feature set and with its plug and play capability it is easy. I took the training course at AEM and can say the software is not the most user friendly. You really need to find someone familiar with the software. It is aso only plug and play for the crate motor harness setup although they plan to launch one later to cover other configurations. Keep in mind that with all of these ECU's you need to prepare to spend a little extra for the little things like ignitors, relays and other incedentals.
Something else to keep in mind is that with traction control you will need a non-driven wheel speed as well as a driven wheel speed. The driven wheel speed is as easy as installing an electronic sender onto the trans. The non-driven will require a reluctor and pickup to be installed on one of the front hubs. Not entirely difficult but will take some engineering.
Blaine,
Holley uses a Davis Technologies module for Traction Control. It works differently than conventional traction control systems that compare non-driven wheel speed vs. driven wheel speed. The Holley (Davis) T.C. system only monitors engine RPM. It's a self learning system that figures out the rate of RPM increase in a traction vs. a no traction situation. According to Holley, the system is really only suited to drag racing applications as opposed to street and/or road racing applications.
Holley uses a Davis Technologies module for Traction Control. It works differently than conventional traction control systems that compare non-driven wheel speed vs. driven wheel speed. The Holley (Davis) T.C. system only monitors engine RPM. It's a self learning system that figures out the rate of RPM increase in a traction vs. a no traction situation. According to Holley, the system is really only suited to drag racing applications as opposed to street and/or road racing applications.
Gotcha. I guess that's why they figure its best suited to drag racing. We have installed several of the dominator units however I must admit we have never played with the traction control.
My engine and induction are almost done.
Performance should be on par or better than the motor shown here.
525HP @ 7,100 RPM
The Dyno has a transmission simulator so you can get a feel for real world, while tuning.
Program in the car weight, gear ratios, rear wheel circumference etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3CO8Imy3Io
Performance should be on par or better than the motor shown here.
525HP @ 7,100 RPM
The Dyno has a transmission simulator so you can get a feel for real world, while tuning.
Program in the car weight, gear ratios, rear wheel circumference etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3CO8Imy3Io
That intake is a work of art. What a way to top off your engine.
Devin
Devin
NOW, THAT'S PRETTY.
Does she have a sister?
Does she have a sister?
Very nice intake! That wasnt cheap...
quote:Originally posted by PanteraTurbo:
Very nice intake! That wasnt cheap...
Yeah..... "Ouch" is a good word to describe.
More than a new crate motor.
That's going to be awesome!!
Obscene! Filthy!
quote:Originally posted by PanteraDoug:
Obscene! Filthy!
I like to think of it as.
"Naughty but Nice."
BTW
I decided to pump up the motor and have it Red line at 8,000 RPM so I bought a brand new crate motor with all the Bad Ass Forged internals "Boss" valve train etc.
M-6007-A50NA
If anyone is looking for a low mileage Mustang motor I will be selling my 20K mi. engine soon.
http://fordperformanceracingpa...p?PartKeyField=13113
quote:Originally posted by agustaboy:quote:Originally posted by PanteraDoug:
Obscene! Filthy!
I like to think of it as.
"Naughty but Nice."
No way. It's just bad ass all the way.
quote:Originally posted by agustaboy:
OK Off to the engine tuner for a dyno run.
Well I guess this thing is really getting some attention.
At the tuners next week. Reps from Borla and Holley will be present. Apparently this thing has the 1st and newest engine management system from Holley. fingers crossed they have it all sorted out and correct.